Poll: Who's going to win on Saturday?

[Motu]

Hahahaha. I think hell would have to freeze over before National went with Greens.

Nor will the Maori Party - that's National's problem,no one to form a coalition with,but those minor parties pull the vote from Labour...this is a tricky one alright.

[Wolf]

I agree. National will win. Most people won't look beyond the tax cuts. I actually feel a bit sorry for Don Brash. Six or nine months on, when it all turns to custard, who will get the blame? I doubt that by then he will have the political savvy to avoid the knife in the back.

Give me the knife - I'd happily stick it into the lying snivelling little bastard. He's weak, stupid and resorts to filthy tactics then lies about his involvement.

He's also two-faced says one thing to a person's face then another behind their back - vis. that crap at the Wananga in Te Awamutu the other day. Says complimentary things to them after they've invited him in and then slams them when he's outside and completely retracts what he told them.

Kinda like his 180-degree on the matter of the smear campaign, isn't it.

The man has no integrity and when he finally is consigned to the political scrap-heap he will thoroughly deserve it. Wish it would happen today.

[Keystone19]

Don Brash is a male chauvanist pig and lost my vote when he said he couldn't argue with Helen Clark because she's a woman.

If the guy can't argue with a woman then he's going to get eaten up and spat out the second he gets into power.

This country should be proud of it's record in terms of equality of men and women, we don't need dickheads like Don Brash sending us all back to the dark ages.

Rant over...

[Mr Skid]

Give me the knife - I'd happily stick it into the lying snivelling little bastard. He's weak, stupid and resorts to filthy tactics then lies about his involvement.

He's also two-faced says one thing to a person's face then another behind their back - vis. that crap at the Wananga in Te Awamutu the other day. Says complimentary things to them after they've invited him in and then slams them when he's outside and completely retracts what he told them.

Kinda like his 180-degree on the matter of the smear campaign, isn't it.

The man has no integrity and when he finally is consigned to the political scrap-heap he will thoroughly deserve it. Wish it would happen today.

Funny, most comentators are suggesting he's not cut out for political life. You seem to think exactly the opposite.

[Quasievil]

Well I Hope for this countries sake that National or the centre right wins, if it doesnt you WILL end up with a governemnt coalition made up of Labour Greens and the Maori party, that will spell a disaster for New Zealand, You WILL have on Going treaty issues, You WILL have higher taxes ie Carbon Tax as a result of the stupid labour signing up to the Kyoto protocol which is in itself a meaningless but expensive treaty which no one cares about.

As far as leaders go, I would prefer to have Mr Brash, he does have integrity and is an honest and proven leader of the economy, ie he did achieve the impossible task of enabling a 3% cap on inflation, he has been a successful CEO for over 30 years and thankfully he is not a career politician. the other camp , Mrs Clarke has no integrity or honesty and is snake like, ie Speeding motorcade she as head of the state let her employees take a fall, She mislead the public with the signing of the artwork, she performed in the airplane debarkle, she has no manners wearing slacks to meet the queen and sitting down before her at dinner, she insults the USA in relation to the Iraq war, she has a long long list of Fuck ups which can only point her out as a dishonest cunning and devious person. Not to mention the terrible policey her government has brought in holding the country to ransom.
A vote for the left is a vote for policey and disruption and dependant NZrs, a vote for the left is a vote for disaster in our economy and social improvement.
Would you really want the looneys in the greens in charge of policeys for our economy ?
For fucks sake leftys piss me off and people who vote without so much as a thought or a intelligent consideration for the power and privalage of their vote piss me off more !

Bennificeries are reliant on the state and will vote for that reliance ie vote for labour, as far as Im concerned if you are relaint on the state you should by default loose your right to vote, if you do not contribute to the economy why should your vote influence it ?

I have alot to say on this, best I shut up now before I piss some of you off

[Quasievil]

Don Brash is a male chauvanist pig and lost my vote when he said he couldn't argue with Helen Clark because she's a woman.

If the guy can't argue with a woman then he's going to get eaten up and spat out the second he gets into power.

This country should be proud of it's record in terms of equality of men and women, we don't need dickheads like Don Brash sending us all back to the dark ages.

Rant over...

He won that nights debate, he didnt need to argue, and since then he has held himself well against his opponents, watch tonights debate.
I dont think that respecting women makes you a chavanistic pig either, personally I would not act in a way such as Helen Clarke did to a woman or a man for that matter.
And besides Helen Clarke is not a woman, she is a man in a womans clothing this is obvious

[kerryg]

That's the General Election I'm referring to.

I'm not interested in who you're going to vote for. I'm interested in who you think will win. Understood?

I don't think anyone will "win" on Saturday. I'll be reckless and predict that Labour and National will collect similar vote numbers, that neither will have a majority and that who ends up governing the country will not emerge until several days later after the various coalition discussions have taken place.

I also forecast that the Greens, United Future and the Maori party will each reach the 5% threshold (and Pita Sharples is a shoe-in as an electorate MP), that Jim Anderton will retain Wigram and that this election will definitely see the end of Act in Parliament and probably also Winston Peters. I think Winnie has shot himself in the foot with this dirty campaign in Tauranga, and the Tauranga blue-rinse set will go for the horny pensioner standing for National...


Or not

Bloody interesting election though.....

[Indiana_Jones]

Don Brash is a male chauvanist pig and lost my vote when he said he couldn't argue with Helen Clark because she's a woman.

How was he supposed know she was a women!

-Indy

[Motu]

Well I Hope for this countries sake that National or the centre right wins, if it doesnt you WILL end up with a governemnt coalition made up of Labour Greens and the Maori party, that will spell a disaster for New Zealand, You WILL have on Going treaty issues, You WILL have higher taxes ie Carbon Tax as a result of the stupid labour signing up to the Kyoto protocol which is in itself a meaningless but expensive treaty which no one cares about.

As far as leaders go, I would prefer to have Mr Brash, he does have integrity and is an honest and proven leader of the economy, ie he did achieve the impossible task of enabling a 3% cap on inflation, he has been a successful CEO for over 30 years and thankfully he is not a career politician. the other camp , Mrs Clarke has no integrity or honesty and is snake like, ie Speeding motorcade she as head of the state let her employees take a fall, She mislead the public with the signing of the artwork, she performed in the airplane debarkle, she has no manners wearing slacks to meet the queen and sitting down before her at dinner, she insults the USA in relation to the Iraq war, she has a long long list of Fuck ups which can only point her out as a dishonest cunning and devious person. Not to mention the terrible policey her government has brought in holding the country to ransom.
A vote for the left is a vote for policey and disruption and dependant NZrs, a vote for the left is a vote for disaster in our economy and social improvement.
Would you really want the looneys in the greens in charge of policeys for our economy ?
For fucks sake leftys piss me off and people who vote without so much as a thought or a intelligent consideration for the power and privalage of their vote piss me off more !

Bennificeries are reliant on the state and will vote for that reliance ie vote for labour, as far as Im concerned if you are relaint on the state you should by default loose your right to vote, if you do not contribute to the economy why should your vote influence it ?

I have alot to say on this, best I shut up now before I piss some of you off

Um...gosh - which secure National seat in Hamilton are you running for again?

[Biff]

Do National actually have any policies? I mean really? Not sound bites off the TV or radio, I mean firm, hard, well-researched policies?

I've contacted them several times now in order to get my hands on a manifesto, or something documenting their commitments and policies, but all I keep getting told is that they haven't released a policy for this, that and the other. And as for the policies they have released - 1/2 a fkin page for defence?! 1 1/2 pages (with lots of black bits) for finance. How the hell can you trust or vote for a party that doesn't have a clue what they intend on doing should they get in power.

I'm almost glad I'm not eligible to vote.

[Keystone19]

He won that nights debate, he didnt need to argue, and since then he has held himself well against his opponents, watch tonights debate.
I dont think that respecting women makes you a chavanistic pig either, personally I would not act in a way such as Helen Clarke did to a woman or a man for that matter.
And besides Helen Clarke is not a woman, she is a man in a womans clothing this is obvious

Respecting women is one thing, a completely condescending approach is something entirely different.

Helen Clark has achieved more for the majority of people in this country in the last six years then the national party has ever achieved. Voting for national will mean the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. National's past track record on health and social welfare is appalling and resulted in sending a large number of people below the relative poverty line. As far as I am concerned every person in this country has the right to food, shelter and warmth. Until the national party and Don Brash demonstrate some commitment to ensuring a minimum standard of health then I am afraid I will remain a left wing supporter.

[Keystone19]

How was he supposed know she was a women!

-Indy

Because the Women's Weekly says so and I believe he is an avid reader...

[Wolf]

I have alot to say on this, best I shut up now before I piss some of you off

Dude, you're as entitled to your opinion as anyone. If people choose to get pissed off because you disagree with them, that's their look-out.

FWIW, I didn't say Uncle Helen was any better or had more integrity. In fact, my lack of respect for Don Brash also applies to Helen Clarke, for pretty much the same reason: I detest liars.

I do disagree with you over the issues with the Queen and the USA - as a Republican, I have no time for the Monarchy (except for historical interest) and Bush deserved to be insulted - he actually deserves to be arrested for War Crimes every bit as much as Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden do, IMO.

I also feel that what Helen said on that particular instance is correct - it would not have happened with Al Gore as President.

But, hey, I don't have to like, trust or respect someone to agree with them sometimes - I'm sure that Brash has said a few things that, had I heard them, I would have agreed with him.

Conversely, agreeing with a couple of things someone said does not alter my perception that they demonstrate a lack of integrity - my definition: "Words and deeds in accordance with each other and telling the truth." By my definition, both Brash and Clarke fall seriously short of the mark - but then, they're politicians and therefore morally deficient, once again IMO.

None of the top contenders vying for election have demonstrated integrity to me. In my observation, all have demonstrated an inability to "walk the talk".

YMMV, of course and you have every right to disagree and perceive things differently.

[Zed]

I don't care who you vote for, just as long as you do vote!

If you are eligible to vote and don't vote this weekend then you have no right to complain when the next government passes legislation you don't like!

[chickenfunkstar]

It looks pretty colse for this election. I wouldn't like to call it. The problem which Don Brash has is that he doesn't (compared to labour) have many potential coalition partners.
As a student about to graduate, i'm gonna be better off then I am now no matter who wins.