View Poll Results: Who will win the General Election? (Check thread for instructions)

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    53 49.07%
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    15 13.89%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar
    Ahhh, you appear to subscribe to Chairperson Fitzsimmons "Great Leap Backwards".
    I hear the sneer. As I've said on more than one occasion before, the Greens can be flaky on some specific issues but as people who care about more things than the size of their bank accounts they and their principles deserve better consideration than the unthinking put-downs with which the condescending and the self-interested like to sweep what are valid concerns under the carpet...
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    Im just gonna tick all the boxes to piss them off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper
    Im just gonna tick all the boxes to piss them off
    My dad and his brother used to do that in Holland when they lived there - it is a legal requirement to vote... so tick 'em all and make it invalid ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper
    Im just gonna tick all the boxes to piss them off
    Remember: It is vitally important to not waste your vote - so don't give it to any of the thieving, lying bastards...

    I'll vote when there is someone worth voting for - someone who is honest and has policies I agree with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeL
    This seems to be a commonly-held view, yet those who hold it are not often able to support it with concrete evidence, relying on hearsay, gut-feeling, limited personal experience...
    The idea that we are grossly over-taxed and supporting a vast contingent of benefit-bludgers needs to be subjected to some rational scrutiny, including international comparisons and some relevant statistics.
    One reason that there is so little concrete evidence given for NZers being over-taxed is that international comparisons are hard to make due to the wide variation in taxations systems. There is very little evidence to support this assertion when NZ is compared to similar Western economies, including Australia. Comparisons to places such as Singapore are fairly pointless as they do not provide anywhere near the same level of social services to their citizens.

    In comparison to Australia, the average wage/salary earner tax burden is about the same overall, it is just obtained in different ways. While the headline company tax rate might be a few percent lower in Australia, Australian companies have to pay Payroll tax which is collected by the states. Australians also have to pay Medicare tax, Capital Gains tax, and Stamp Duty on property sales. Also the upper income bracket tax rates are higher in Australia, 42c/$ >$63,000 and 47c/$ >$95000 compared to the single rate of 39c/$ >$60000 in NZ.

    Here is an OECD publication comparing "All in average personal tax rates" between OECD countries. For a single person, no children, (the first column) the average tax rate for Australia is 24.3% while for NZ it is 20.7% (2004 figures). Only 7 out of 30 countries listed have a lower all-in personal tax rate than NZ. Hardly tremendous evidence of us being over-taxed.

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    Have done my thing

    Well I have been and done my vote thing. I had not really decided what I would do right up to eyes down peepers on the paper. I gave two ticks for National. Am I happy with my actions? No not really because I voted negatively rather than positively. I have been enslaved to the wants of the media and their evil polls. I do not like the National party but have supported them rather than the status quo (left) because the media and their polls suggest there may be a possibility for change.
    A and B fighting for the benefit of C. I ask myself just who is "C" and how do they benefit from you and me arguing over the information fed to us by the media, so that either result is the same for them in the long run. The only constant losers are you and me, that hasn't changed at all over the 45yrs I have been voting.
    Having read all the guff available on as many of those offering themselves at this election and their policies I would place myself firmly between Democrats for Social Credit and the Libertarian parties. Strange bedfellows you might well say! Well read their guff for yourself and really think about it. I think you could be surprised. There would have to be vital changes of each but I think their best points would be a great mix. Oh well lets see what today's pantomime will bring on for us. Cheers John.

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    Done my thing, and it sure as hell weren't National. If Brash becomes PM - this country is in for a rough ride.

    One person I would like to see in parliament (but it won't happen) is Pita Sharples!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper
    Fuck, I don't really care. Anyone of those two will just fuck up NZ more than it is.
    What fucks up a country - the apathy of the people in it!
    “- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SP
    What fucks up a country - the apathy of the people in it!
    Im South African and I don't really give a fuck about beaurocrats and polcys ect. The day I kick up a fuss is when they tell me Im not allowed to ride my bike. Until then...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by SP
    Done my thing, and it sure as hell weren't National. If Brash becomes PM - this country is in for a rough ride.

    One person I would like to see in parliament (but it won't happen) is Pita Sharples!
    Hmmm, I think he's got a good chance of winning Tamaki-Makaurau. He presents a much more voter-friendly persona than Tariana Turia IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper
    Im South African and I don't really give a fuck about beaurocrats and polcys ect. The day I kick up a fuss is when they tell me Im not allowed to ride my bike. Until then...........
    Then it will be too late. You will have lost far more by then than your right to ride...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacD
    Hardly tremendous evidence of us being over-taxed.
    Thanks MacD. That's just the sort of thing I was looking for.
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    looks like the kb poll was pretty accurate then
    The contents of this post are my opinion and may not be subjected to any form of reality
    It means I'm not an authority or a teacher, and may not have any experience so take things with a pinch of salt (a.k.a bullshit) rather than fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoSeven
    looks like the kb poll was pretty accurate then
    Yea, it's looking pretty blue for the party in red right now isn't it. It's too early to call it, but it's looking pretty clear cut even at this stage. And even the Greens might miss out altogether

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marknz
    Yea, it's looking pretty blue for the party in red right now isn't it. It's too early to call it, but it's looking pretty clear cut even at this stage. And even the Greens might miss out altogether
    How funny would that be, I'm not eligable to vote so it doesn't make a big deal to me, but there was a lot of talk about a Labour / Green coalition, and it seems (at this early stage, I may yet be wrong) that Labour has been beat, and the Greens may be down for the count.

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