Don't lend your bike, car, skateboard, etc.

**Lou Girardin** · 15th September 2005, 14:32

I've always wondered what is to be gained by charging parents when a child dies in these circumstances. What punishment could be worse for any parent than to know they could have prevented the childs death?

**Wolf** · 15th September 2005, 14:44

I fully endorse what Frosty and Keystone have said - the cubs at 2 and 3 are more than capable of activating dangerous equipment. The oldest knows how to work the electric start on a motorcycle - he can climb up onto a bike, turn on a key and push a starter button. Needless to say, the cubs are watched like hawks around motorcycles...

Both are very capable and they move quicker than people suspect a lot of the time. They're also quite strong and can move fairly heavy objects, which means they can move quite a heavy chair or box if it'll help them gain access to whatever has taken their fancy...

**FROSTY:Me** · 18th September 2005, 14:35

Yup --your cubs sound like baby baby bikie- He's dynamite at 2 years old he thinks he can do everything his brother can do.
Mind you interesting --I tried to force him to touch the warm muffler on my bike -hot enough to shock not enough to burn. He wouldnt have a bar of it.
He without any real showing by me has picked up on what is not safe and what is safe around my gargre.

**strayjuliet** · 18th September 2005, 16:29

Originally Posted by FROSTY

Mind you interesting --I tried to force him to touch the warm muffler on my bike -hot enough to shock not enough to burn. He wouldnt have a bar of it.
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Wolf took the M50 Boulevard for a test ride and, when he came back, our oldest cub (3) went running up to the M50 and put his hand on the hot muffler - even though we had told him many times not to.
I think it's because he loves motorbikes so much that he thinks its ok to climb on every single bike he sees, not realizing that they can hurt him, especially if he touches the wrong place.
When Wolf came out to my parents place 1 day to pick me up on his bike, I climbed on and accidentally put my leg against the exhaust and ended up with a second degree burn on my leg from which I still to this day (over 3 years later) have the scar.
It just goes to show even as adults we can do some silly things without thinking.

**spudchucka** · 18th September 2005, 20:21

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Police have charged a Hawera man with manslaughter after a 4 year old girl driving his quad rolled it and was killed.
Manslaughter?

Knowing some of the facts involved I would say now is a good time to shut the fuck up!

**geoffm** · 18th September 2005, 21:05

This was a 300cc quad - not a little LT50 tiddler bike. Bit of a handful for a young kid. Wouldn't let my boy who is close to that age (and has no fear) ride a quad.
Geoff

**Lou Girardin** · 19th September 2005, 11:36

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Knowing some of the facts involved I would say now is a good time to shut the fuck up!

How about sharing the facts or shutting the fuck up.

**spudchucka** · 19th September 2005, 12:36

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

How about sharing the facts or shutting the fuck up.

I have a connection to this that has nothing to do with my job so I'm not about to share anything with a fucken over opinionated retard like you.

My advice again is to shut the fuck up!

**Lou Girardin** · 19th September 2005, 14:53

Originally Posted by spudchucka

I have a connection to this that has nothing to do with my job so I'm not about to share anything with a fucken over opinionated retard like you.

My advice again is to shut the fuck up!

Try and get over your preconceived notions of what the thread is about and read it.
Then take several deep breaths before you touch the keyboard.

**scumdog** · 19th September 2005, 15:02

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

I've always wondered what is to be gained by charging parents when a child dies in these circumstances. What punishment could be worse for any parent than to know they could have prevented the childs death?

Might show to others there IS a consequence and make 'em think?? I dunno.

**Lou Girardin** · 19th September 2005, 15:16

Originally Posted by scumdog

Might show to others there IS a consequence and make 'em think?? I dunno.

Maybe. But it doesn't seem to stop kids getting run over in driveways.
I can't imagine anything worse.

**Patrick** · 19th September 2005, 15:20

Unsure of you missed the point of the thread Spud...everyone agrees that the kid shouldn't be on a bike. How it came about, well, we all have to wait and see as it is before the courts.

Your point though, hasn't been missed.

Be careful people, you never know who is out there in KB land that can be affected by this type of tragedy...

**Lou Girardin** · 19th September 2005, 15:26

Originally Posted by Patrick

Unsure of you missed the point of the thread Spud...everyone agrees that the kid shouldn't be on a bike. How it came about, well, we all have to wait and see as it is before the courts.

Your point though, hasn't been missed.

Be careful people, you never know who is out there in KB land that can be affected by this type of tragedy...

True, but there was nothing said that was at all critical or disrespectful till the Spudmeister turned feral.