Praying for tidal waves
I would argue standing up to or belligerence towards unjust rules has nothing to do with stupidity... Stupid is being a good sheeple that subverts self responsibilities to gubberment departments 'cause they know best'.Originally Posted by Kickaha
You really think someone on their own farm deserves a 40k fine for failing to wear a helmet? When it is of no/little safty benifit. You realise these are dinky open face helmets that would not protect you in a roll over anyway?
Sticking to the back roads
In the riders seat
I didn't realise that a roll over was the only kind of accident you could have on a farm
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
salty dog
Not sure what makes anybody "think" like that.......
surely a fine should reflect the seriousness of an "offense"?
so riding a quadbike on a farm without a helmet is more serious then having caused an accident and injured / killed somebody? (Drunk driver for instance? )
what makes you think they are stupid?
I like a bit of civil disobedience....
blind rule followers are to stupid to think for themselves is my experience.
Opinions are like arseholes: Everybody has got one, but that doesn't mean you got to air it in public all the time....
Forum whore
Afuckenmen
Praying for tidal waves
Never said it was.
Sticking to the back roads
Forum whore
Say what you want but this is the era of the work safety Nazi...
The amount of shit we need to go through to do anything these days is unfuckin believable... The consequences of a company getting caught doing dangerous stuff is horrendous - right the way up to the directors... Like it or not a farm is a workplace and its financially reckless to ignore this shit now, no matter what you may think about it...
Just put up a ladder at work someplace and see what happens - CRAZY....
Kruger-Dunning Parts n Service
No safety gear ever protects 100% from an injury.
But those dinky little helmets will keep a low speed crash as a minor crash and not a serious one. I regularly crash my mountain bike in the forest at speeds of around 20-40k on cross country trails many of which would be similar to farm tracks. It sounds slow compared to motorcycle crashes but its still plenty fast enough to do some damage. People die in city fist fights when they fall over backwards and hit head on concrete.
The same risk exists for a farmer striking his head on an exposed rock from low speed fall.
With helmet instead of needing a rescue chopper that could be saving a biker whose just been snotted by a car he could be uninjured or just off to doctor in car with missus.
Its the same as wearing hard hats when loading truck at large factorys. I've never had anything hit me on the head there but the risk exists that a sizeable piece of steel might fall off an overhead gantry,pipework winch motor etc one day...
Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket - Eric Hoffer
Praying for tidal waves
Cross county trails are hardly similar to riding down the race or through paddocks at low speed. Of course if the farm terrain was rough there is more chance of crashing (likely a rollover(which the dinky helmet is unlikely to keep you all warm and snuggly)).
How you crash a quad at low speed (thats not a rollover) that results in you falling off it and getting a bump on the head... I don't know, complete carelessness probably. There are these people around but I completely disagree that every one needs to be tarnished with the same brush and legislated against because of a few muppets.
Last edited by oneblackflag; 18th December 2014 at 08:16. Reason: oh I know why.... 20k a pop easy pickings $$$$
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Hardcore Biker
I think personal responsability and common sense were outlawed about the same timeSomething that seems to be disappearing from the human race at an alarming rate.
Political Correctness, the chief weapon of whiney arse bastards
Hardcore Punk
Bullshit, never had a chainsaw stopped by decent chaps have you?
For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.Keep an open mind, just dont let your brains fall out.
Nana
And not volunteering to test them. Ta.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
Nana
I have only known a couple of farmers to come to grief on a quad. One flipped of the back showing off the other two high sided when their power slide through cow shit resulted in sudden and unexpected traction. All had head injuries. All crashed in the concreted area by the milking shed. All showing off for girls. None wore helmets.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
Hardcore Punk
Have tested them a couple of times now, they do work.
After cutting my leg in half when younger, I wear them whenever I use my saws.
For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.
Praying for tidal waves
So used in a reckless manner they are quite dangerous.
Average John Smith tootling along behind his cows, maybe not so much.
Sticking to the back roads
Hardcore Punk
Yep, like any machine, If you leave your brain behind you are likely to get hurt.
If used with common sense and a bit of respect, they are pretty safe. I have had a couple tip over on me, but I was in places I shouldn't of had them.
For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.
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