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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Drawing a long bow there...

    My take is: You expect all garages to repair any potentially lethal defect they notice on any bike they have on their premises - regardless of the owners instructions/orders/finances??
    Maybe in a perfect world....

    But without permission to do so, mongrels just wouldnt pay....
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrivy View Post
    So why do we all sign waivers and indemnities then???
    You sign them because the organiser of the event wouldn't let you enter otherwise - which is their prerogative, it's their event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    Perhaps you could also consider this issue from a professional stand point rather than a purely mechanical one.

    Lets say, hypothetically, the workshop next door does some work on a motorcycle. The owner then takes that motorcycle to a track, has an accident and dies. Worksafe conduct an initial investigation and conclude a mechanical defect was a factor, and since the bike was worked on recently call in the Police. The Police interview the mechanic next door, determine that he is a professional (accepts payment for services), knew that the motorcycle had a serious and dangerous defect, and that he gave the former customer a warning about it but did nothing further. The Police aren't sure if there is a case, but conclude there is sufficient linkage to consider an initial charge of negligent manslaughter (a criminal conviction).

    Then the Police come to your workshop, seeing that you are in the same trade and also a professional. The Police consider engaging you as an expert in your field, and ask you if an experienced professional in your trade following industry best practices would allow someone to not resolve a serious defect in the braking system of the motorcycle that could lead to serious injury or death. Your answer will determine if the chap next door spends the next two years waiting for trial and a lot of money on lawyers to try and determine the outcome (and a jury may well find that a warning was sufficient - who knows).


    I know, an extreme outcome. But whatever you're answer is may help give you some guidance.
    Potentially lethal defective brakes? The fucken lever fouls on the fairing, it aint like the fairing blade is slowly chopping through the lines or summat!

    It is a minor fault, with low to minimal risk. The customer has been made aware, twice. If he is not bothered, I see no problem with it. It doesn't adversely effect anyone else on track either, it's a non issue.

    People are certainly too precious with their fairings, I would simply take to it with whatever type of saw that worked quickest to resolve the problem. But then, I'm totally function motivated rather than form...unless I'm looking at women folk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrivy View Post
    So why do we all sign waivers and indemnities then???
    it stops the rider or their next of kin suing the orgnasation/poeple running the event,

    it means nothing to the police that can lay charges against them,

    realistically, in NZ with ACC, the indemnities are not really worth the paper they are written on, as we don't sue each other anyway,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    it aint like the fairing blade is slowly chopping through the lines or summat!
    IIRC, is something you have experience with (though was the front tyre doing the chopping!)!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcy25 View Post
    IIRC, is something you have experience with (though was the front tyre doing the chopping!)!!!
    Yip, no front gaurd on the Ducati. Won my first race that day on it, then things went down hill fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    I thought bikes only came out of the factory with metal tanks anyway. Maybe bikes that are made with non metal tanks should just be banned. Would you buy a car with a fibreglass tank?
    ummmm-actually theres a fair few cars coming out of factories with plastic tanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Drawing a long bow there...

    My take is: You expect all garages to repair any potentially lethal defect they notice on any bike they have on their premises - regardless of the owners instructions/orders/finances??


    Years ago my workmate had his day in court for cutting the plug off a customers 3phase dishwasher because it wasn't safe to operate.
    Customers employee refitted the plug and burnt down his café.
    Registration Board got involved.

    Long drawn out process which revealed it was not legal to alter the customers appliance without permission (cut off the plug).
    Go NZ its all about safety unless its not PC to do it.

    Maybe the only thing you can do is get legal advice about what you should do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    ummmm-actually theres a fair few cars coming out of factories with plastic tanks.
    Think it would be the end of motard racing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    ummmm-actually theres a fair few cars coming out of factories with plastic tanks.
    Back away now Frosty. In my experience you can't argue with stupid.


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