ISIS is a Zionist plot; a Jew is leading the group

[awayatc]

Like all secret services really. NZ has a very effective one, too. I wouldn't want to upset them, either.

except nz and most other countries haven't got an agenda beyond protecting themselves........

[mashman]

Don't be a dipshit. I never said the death of everyone in 9/11 was funny. I said that all of the different conspiracy theories/theorists are amusing.

You do realise that those conspiracy theorists are professionals from all walks of life, some were even on the scene at the time and some are family members of those who were murdered etc... they are fighting for the truth to be heard, yet they still have to put up with dipshits pissing all over their efforts to have the evidence heard, and all because dipshits class their evidence as "conspiracy".

The bullshit and lies that followed and the hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) of lives lost in the name of justice for the fallen (pure revenge, false revenge, known false revenge) is all a part of that conspiracy theory, yet goes unpunished and is a complete insult to their cause.

So, by your own admission, you are very much a member of the pissing over everyone brigade and therefore are very much laughing at the murder of innocents. You might not like that, but that's the result of your ilk swatting away that which they have no clue about.

[carbonhed]

You do realise that those conspiracy theorists are professionals from all walks of life, some were even on the scene at the time and some are family members of those who were murdered etc... they are fighting for the truth to be heard, yet they still have to put up with dipshits pissing all over their efforts to have the evidence heard, and all because dipshits class their evidence as "conspiracy".

The bullshit and lies that followed and the hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) of lives lost in the name of justice for the fallen (pure revenge, false revenge, known false revenge) is all a part of that conspiracy theory, yet goes unpunished and is a complete insult to their cause.

So, by your own admission, you are very much a member of the pissing over everyone brigade and therefore are very much laughing at the murder of innocents. You might not like that, but that's the result of your ilk swatting away that which they have no clue about.

Man! You should wheel out your moral high horse more often! Blind, one legged and riddled with mange... how you mange to stay balanced on top of it is a miracle for the ages... but please don't stop trying.

[Brett]

You do realise that those conspiracy theorists are professionals from all walks of life, some were even on the scene at the time and some are family members of those who were murdered etc... they are fighting for the truth to be heard, yet they still have to put up with dipshits pissing all over their efforts to have the evidence heard, and all because dipshits class their evidence as "conspiracy".

The bullshit and lies that followed and the hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) of lives lost in the name of justice for the fallen (pure revenge, false revenge, known false revenge) is all a part of that conspiracy theory, yet goes unpunished and is a complete insult to their cause.

So, by your own admission, you are very much a member of the pissing over everyone brigade and therefore are very much laughing at the murder of innocents. You might not like that, but that's the result of your ilk swatting away that which they have no clue about.

I am not saying all of the theories I have heard hold no water, just many that I have come across...including some here, are laughably stupid and ill-conceived. You have done just what have half of those conspiracy nuts do...you have taken one thing, extrapolated it to mean something else according to your own view point and what you perceive to be "evidence" or "fact" and are now trying to put words into my mouth and sell something that is several degrees removed from what I really said. I love how another armchair detective who has probably only snooped the internet and watched youtube clips now purports to be an "expert" on the matter. If you and your "ilk" want to be respected and have their theories taken seriously, then perhaps another approach is needed...'cause fella,...I doubt that I am alone laughing at a good 80% of what I hear.

[Brett]

I think I need to go into the manufacture of tinfoil hats. Seems there might be money in it.

[mashman]

Man! You should wheel out your moral high horse more often! Blind, one legged and riddled with mange... how you mange to stay balanced on top of it is a miracle for the ages... but please don't stop trying.

So you're hallucinating high horses... get ooooff the droogs bro, coz I see no judgement in my post, just truth.

I am not saying all of the theories I have heard hold no water, just many that I have come across...including some here, are laughably stupid and ill-conceived. You have done just what have half of those conspiracy nuts do...you have taken one thing, extrapolated it to mean something else according to your own view point and what you perceive to be "evidence" or "fact" and are now trying to put words into my mouth and sell something that is several degrees removed from what I really said. I love how another armchair detective who has probably only snooped the internet and watched youtube clips now purports to be an "expert" on the matter. If you and your "ilk" want to be respected and have their theories taken seriously, then perhaps another approach is needed...'cause fella,...I doubt that I am alone laughing at a good 80% of what I hear.

So now you're not saying all?

[insert flashing highlight]All[/insert flashing highlight] of these 9/11 conspiracies just make me lol

Make your fuckin mind up, put the KB labeller down, and show me where, in my post, I extrapolated something that isn't true. Then once you've done that, re-read YOUR post (above the one above) and tell me ALL about extrapolation again.

[Brett]

I clarified my position on "all" in the subsequent post after you went off the reservation going on about how I seem to think millions of people dying is funny. Don't be an asshat going back to old posts that have been subsequently clarified and then using those as the weapon in your argument. My original post did say "all" but that position was clarified. If you have never hear of hyperbole then please, read up.

Edit...going on previous debates with you, sometimes I think that you just like arguing and getting all stroppy about it rather than anything else constructive.

**Edit: HAHAHAHAHAH Katman gave me negative rep for this. BAHAHAHAHA. For a fuckwit from a fuckwit ey Kitty Kat?

[Brett]

Out of genuine interest, can you point me to a reputable source on alternative (I will avoid "conspiracy") theories on what happened with 9/11? I am not being facetious either...

[Katman]

Out of genuine interest, can you point me to a reputable source on alternative (I will avoid "conspiracy") theories on what happened with 9/11? I am not being facetious either...

http://www.ae911truth.org/

[mashman]

I clarified my position on "all" in the subsequent post when you went off the reservation going on about how I seem to think millions of people dying is funny. Don't be an asshat going back to old posts that have been subsequently clarified and then using those as the weapon in your argument.

Edit...going on previous debates with you, sometimes I think that you just like arguing and getting all stroppy about it rather than anything else constructive.

**Edit: HAHAHAHAHAH Katman gave me negative rep for this. BAHAHAHAHA. For a fuckwit from a fuckwit ey Kitty Kat?

You did clarify your position. As did I... and it would seem, climbing aboard my high horse, that I have more respect for what the so called conspiracy theorists have to say and can make my own mind up as to whether to believe what they say or not. That respect is not diminished by the information they put forwards.

Some things are worth standing up and fighting for and if a side effect of that is that I am perceived as nothing more than a stroppy tin foil hatter that needs to argue, then fine, that's your perception and you are very much welcome to it, but it isn't an accurate perception.

[Brett]

http://www.ae911truth.org/

The struggle with the internot these days is you never know who is behind what with what agenda. Appreciate the link, still skeptical, but will have a bit of a read.

[Katman]

The struggle with the internot these days is you never know who is behind what with what agenda.

Hey, even some political leaders want to know the truth.

http://pl911truth.com/

[mashman]

The struggle with the internot these days is you never know who is behind what with what agenda. Appreciate the link, still skeptical, but will have a bit of a read.

There is a feckload on info out there, but the site that Katman linked to is a community of professionals who peer review each others submissions before posting them on the site. The u.s. govt have outright refused that community the platform to have the evidence heard and unfortunately that allows them to be lumped in with the conspiracy crowd. That in itself is a huge concern.

[Brett]

I must admit one thing that I wondered even as 9/11 was still fresh on the reporters lips that year, the genuine lack of aircraft bits at the Pentagon. Gotta admit that that bit smells a bit. Don't get me wrong, i am not buying the spoken party line hook line and sinker, it is just that some of the conspiracy theories that I have come across just are too strange to make sense. Maybe it is me and my naivety, but I can't see how the US Government would allow such an act to occur if they knew about it, let alone orchestrated it. Surely they cannot have seen any good coming from it?

[Katman]

Surely they cannot have seen any good coming from it?

War, HUH...what is it good for?

Making money.