A Good Reason to Vote National!

[Dafe]

Courtesy of John Banks, Pacific Radio Talkback Host.

That reason is: Ida Hawkins.

Who is Ida Hawkins.......

Ida Hawkins is a woman on an invalid's benefit. It has taken her the past 10 years to put aside a little bit of money each week from that benefit, she has now saved enough money to purchase her daughters headstone.

Her daughter was Colleen Burrows, 15, who was kicked to death in Napier in 1987 by gang members when she refused to have sex with them.

In particular, one Sam TeHei was sentenced to prison for the murder which consisted of kicking the victim all over her body during a 30 minute period before she died, her brains having been kicked out.

Mrs Hawkins had previously saved $600 for a trip to Wellington to speak to parliament officials requesting assistance to pay for the headstone.
The government stating "We cannot help you in any way!"

As for Sam TeHei, 10 years on...
Sam TeHei has received $90,000 in tax payers money for compensation by the government for the way he was treated in Mangaroa prison, Hawkes Bay.

Sam TeHei is currently inline awaiting a second compensation payment of $25,000 for mistreatment at Paremoremo Prison in Auckland.

There are currently 211 criminals awaiting compensation payouts of our taxpayers money, by this government!

10 years on, Ida Hawkins will now be enjoying laying her daughter to rest with a Headstone to mark her memory.


BTW: A prison guard stated the $90,000 had been used on drugs, alcohol, cigarettes and sex.

[Storm]

That really makes me want to say very very bad words

[froggyfrenchman]

Its beyond words really. The heart bleeds for the poor mother and daughter. Scum scum scum scum scum scum scum scum, what more can i say?

[Gremlin]

umm... am I missing something... why does this make us want to vote National??

Is it the compo?? I won't start anything there... words fail me... and I might use some very bad words the youngsters might not like...

[Dafe]

umm... am I missing something... why does this make us want to vote National??

Is it the compo?? I won't start anything there... words fail me... and I might use some very bad words the youngsters might not like...

Because the labour government pays too much of our taxpayers money to criminals for bullshit reasons and doesn't spend it on decent things, like the headstone for the mother.
I'd rather see 1500 spent on a headstone and the remainder of the $90,000 put to decent use.

[Gremlin]

ahh, but I reckon there was no need to even change the old system. First they changed it, realised they screwed up and then had to make a law about a law

You did the crime, and although it doesn't completely make it right to randomly beat you up, its fun, and jail should never be a country club. If you hadn't brutally killed someone you wouldn't have been there in the first place.

*trying really hard not to rant...*

[Dafe]

Unfortunately, As loop holes are discovered, there is normally a requirement to counter it by changing the law.

[Gremlin]

Unfortunately, As loop holes are discovered, there is normally a requirement to counter it by changing the law.

yeah, plug it, not blow it wide open.

Parliament is answerable to no-one, so they do not have to actually listen to the courts and can override them anytime they like.

[Motu]

And you think this is caused by the Labour Government....and by putting National in all will be solved????? Sorry,it's world wide,nothing to do with Labour,National,Democrate or MotoGP,we would have to live in total isolation from the rest of the world to get away from this sort of crap.

[Dafe]

And you think this is caused by the Labour Government....and by putting National in all will be solved????? Sorry,it's world wide,nothing to do with Labour,National,Democrate or MotoGP,we would have to live in total isolation from the rest of the world to get away from this sort of crap.

Worldwide? Just what do you think happens to people commiting these crimes in Singaporean, taiwanese, vietnamese, burmese or chinese prisons???
Coz, they sure ain't paying them mistreatment compensation! and they're not building themselves a wee empire from the confines of their luxury fortresses where they receive their tax payer funded university education, internet connections, tv and movie nights with their 3 square meals a day.
There is a reason behind the term "Club Paremoremo" you know!
I'm sure those countries aren't allowing the likes of Eugene Thomas to text innocent members of the public from their jail cells with sexual references either.

I'm not saying it's caused by labour, perhaps more so contributed to, by labour. I'm saying "I'm sick of criminals receiving tax payer money by using the system which the labour government has continued to have in place". It's a joke to society which Labour has accepted and continues to accept.

And I ABSOLUTELY DISAGREE with your comment that it has nothing to do with a party, hence government.
For it is the governments responsibility to enforce criminal punishment.
You would find crime in NZ on a major decline if NZ was enforced by the Singaporean government.

I'm also not saying all will be solved under National, Just that it will become realistic than the joke it is today!

All in all, your comments do help me understand the social adjustments required to be faced by a government wanting to alter the course, for the better.

[Motu]

We aren't Afganistan under the Taliban either where we could stone a girl to death for looking at another man,we are in New Zealand I'm afraid,a Western civilisation with Democracy,or something similar.You are welcome to go and live in Singapore or Taiwan,welcome to stay here too.You can grow your hair long and chew chewing gum if you like,drive a BIG car or motorcycle.Don't compare us to another country unless you are prepared to take on the whole culture....

[SuperDave]

I've got a great idea and I'm certain I'm not the first to think of it. I think that the government should not pay for prisoner's food, clothes, soap and what not. Sure government should pay for the prison buildings and the prison staff but everything else should be non-government funded. Therefore in order for prisoners to eat and have other essentials they will need to pay for this through their own money or if they can't then their family or friends will have to absorb the cost.

This way, those who deserve to die will die as a result, and they will suffer suitably. Of course there will have to be a more structured system deciding what crimes warrant this kind of punishment, ie the example first posted. I also would think that there should be limitations imposed on what they are allowed to receive or pay for whilst serving their term.

What ya reckon?

[MacD]

We aren't Afganistan under the Taliban either where we could stone a girl to death for looking at another man,we are in New Zealand I'm afraid,a Western civilisation with Democracy,or something similar.You are welcome to go and live in Singapore or Taiwan,welcome to stay here too.You can grow your hair long and chew chewing gum if you like,drive a BIG car or motorcycle.Don't compare us to another country unless you are prepared to take on the whole culture....

And of course the first thing you'd have to get used to is that you wouldn't be able to criticise the Government...

People seem to have a naive fantasy about totalitarian regimes that they would always be on the "right" side. Bizarre.

[Dafe]

You stated "Sorry,it's world wide,nothing to do with Labour,National,Democrate or MotoGP" I'm telling you it has everything to do with the Government.
Our justice system is one of the topics under fire this election. The rest of the country seem to think it has to do with the governing party! Why don't you, Motu?

[Motu]

Well,of course it's to do with the government,but it's not going to change with a change of government.A lot of policies governments put into place were started by the party in office previously - National carried on with Labours Rogernomics because they had to,Labour is doing the Kyoto bit because National signed up for it.Very little gets pulled apart,but lots gets added.Vote who you like,but don't expect overnight change.I don't expect my vote to change my world,it never has before.......otherwise we would all be riding Urals.