Navy unable to board fishing vessels

**Akzle** · 16th January 2015, 12:14

Originally Posted by oldrider

Did anybody notice the price of the practice rounds for Akzle's "Pig Gun"? :"Training ammo $10 each FFS!!" and that's cheap!

$USD.
Can reload 50bmg for about 10. 20mm closer to 25 a shot.
Fuck practice ammo. Frangible HPs

**Banditbandit** · 16th January 2015, 13:14

Originally Posted by rustyrobot

I would say that another anarchist perspective might be that fish are not 'property', but a common asset which need to be protected, or at least conserved. A consensus could be made to protect the fishing stocks, and then direct action taken against those who act in an adverse manner.

Yeah - I would go with that - a collective resource ..

I suspect that instead of blowing the boats out of the water, many of the dictatorial states would collectivise the boats and the fish, and then put the boats to work doing much the same job. The sailors, well - re-education or labour camps if lucky.

They are all into private enterprise now (apart from Cuba maybe) so they would seize the boats then sell them off to their mate's fishing companies ...

**oldrider** · 16th January 2015, 15:51

Putin was working with Cuba when Obama rushed in to grab the initiative off the Russians!

[QUOTE Banditbandit]They are all into private enterprise now (apart from Cuba maybe) so they would seize the boats then sell them off to their mate's fishing companies ... [QUOTE Banditbandit]

Wont be long now and Cuba will be just like the rest of USA-Israel capitalistic lackeys and choked with debt!

**R650R** · 16th January 2015, 18:34

Originally Posted by unstuck

Yeah, I'm getting a hardon about that happening.

fixed that for you ;p

**R650R** · 16th January 2015, 18:37

Originally Posted by jonbuoy

What's the point in risking someone's life for a few fish. It's not easy getting onboard a boat that's helping you - let alone one that doesn't want you onboard. If someone went over the side they wouldn't last long in that water.

Its our Mana at stake. This is what the navy bitches sign up for and train for. This is like a military version of the polices 'cultural sensitivity' in the kahui case..... oh the seas a bit rough, oh they don't want us to board yet, give them ten days shall we.....

**Waihou Thumper** · 16th January 2015, 19:23

Originally Posted by R650R

Its our Mana at stake. This is what the navy bitches sign up for and train for. This is like a military version of the polices 'cultural sensitivity' in the kahui case..... oh the seas a bit rough, oh they don't want us to board yet, give them ten days shall we.....

Have you served? No....Have you been to sea and served in the armed forces? No...
Keep your Bigotry to yourself!

**oldrider** · 16th January 2015, 19:40

Originally Posted by Waihou Thumper

Have you served? No....Have you been to sea and served in the armed forces? No...
Keep your Bigotry to yourself!

Hardly bigotry - he is a taxpayer and therefore involved - he doesn't have to have served to have an opinion - our servicemen serve to protect his right to have one!

**Waihou Thumper** · 16th January 2015, 19:49

Originally Posted by oldrider

Hardly bigotry - he is a taxpayer and therefore involved - he doesn't have to have served to have an opinion - our servicemen serve to protect his right to have one!

apart from the comment...

This is what the navy bitches sign up for and train for

**Smifffy** · 16th January 2015, 19:52

Originally Posted by oldrider

Hardly bigotry - he is a taxpayer and therefore involved - he doesn't have to have served to have an opinion - our servicemen serve to protect his right to have one!

They may serve to protect his right to an opinion - one which he has just so eloquently expressed, and you have also defended. That doesn't mean they need to risk their life when the taxpayer's elected representatives decide there is another way to deal with it.

Nobody's freedom of speech or expression is at risk here.

The Wellington and her crew have done everything that was asked of them, and done it well.

Also, if they had been asked to board the FFVs at all costs, or to fire upon them, I have no doubt that they would have done so effectively, and without hesitation.

Will be interesting to see what happens next.

**oldrider** · 16th January 2015, 20:02

Originally Posted by Smifffy

They may serve to protect his right to an opinion - one which he has just so eloquently expressed, and you have also defended. That doesn't mean they need to risk their life when the taxpayer's elected representatives decide there is another way to deal with it.

Nobody's freedom of speech or expression is at risk here.

The Wellington and her crew have done everything that was asked of them, and done it well.

Also, if they had been asked to board the FFVs at all costs, or to fire upon them, I have no doubt that they would have done so effectively, and without hesitation.

Will be interesting to see what happens next.

I defended his "right" to have an opinion - not necessarily his "stated" opinion - I hope you understand that!

More interesting how are the government going to react to that vigilante group spooling around down there playing policeman of the sea?

They are a frigging embarrassment we don't need right now IMHO!

**The Reibz** · 16th January 2015, 20:12

Ah yes, yet another forum of armchair critics and experts on boarding party operations and International Maritime Law. You all must have thousands of sea days.

Respect to HMNZS Wellington and her crew for patrolling over xmas and new years while the rest of us were pissing it up.