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  1. #16
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    If you are worried about the rear wheel locking up on a clutch-less downshift, get a smaller engine on a shitty bike. Problem fixed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taxythingy View Post
    If you are worried about the rear wheel locking up on a clutch-less downshift, get a smaller engine on a shitty bike. Problem fixed!
    Or, I dunno, use the clutch?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    You can preload the gear lever and a simple throttle off and back on again will change the gear smoothly.
    That is precisely the technique that causes gear dogs to wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post
    But seriously........
    you went to a shop to have your clutch cable adjusted....?
    It was going to be about a week before I could get the clutch cable replaced, and I didn't want to be bike-less for that long. I tried to adjust it myself but that didn't get much improvement, and I got pretty concerned at the slipping clutch. And since the problem started only after the guys tweaked it, I didn't see why they couldn't put it adjust it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haydes55 View Post
    I recently adjusted my gear lever lower. Took one 10mm bolt (or was it 8mm?) took the clip off the gear spline, moved it a couple teeth around, tightened it back up. It's a lot lower now and much better, my up shifts are a lot smoother now that the top of my foots bend is further than how far the lever can travel.

    If your clutch was slipping in gear, due to clutch cable, that would mean it had no free play, so was constantly slightly engaged. Wind the bold on the clutch lever in, til the lever has a couple mm free play (towards the bars, not up and down).
    Ah - makes more sense now with the importance of the free play. Thanks! I don't think I could get the free play myself when I made those adjustments, noted that when I released the clutch, the cable at times didn't return the full length. All the bolt on the clutch lever did when I tried to adjust it myself was bring the clutch lever closer to the handlebar. But I also didn't try the second smaller bolt on the level itself (aftermarket lever the previous owner had installed), perhaps that was the correct bolt for adjusting free play..

    Yup - will look into adjusted the height of the gear level once I assess my habits/new habits. Doesn't look like i have any extra teeth where the gear can be re-positioned, but perhaps I'll see what others do with a similar model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zmlam View Post
    Ah - makes more sense now with the importance of the free play. Thanks! I don't think I could get the free play myself when I made those adjustments, noted that when I released the clutch, the cable at times didn't return the full length. All the bolt on the clutch lever did when I tried to adjust it myself was bring the clutch lever closer to the handlebar. But I also didn't try the second smaller bolt on the level itself (aftermarket lever the previous owner had installed), perhaps that was the correct bolt for adjusting free play..

    Yup - will look into adjusted the height of the gear level once I assess my habits/new habits. Doesn't look like i have any extra teeth where the gear can be re-positioned, but perhaps I'll see what others do with a similar model.
    some bikes have short linkages that connect the foot gear lever to the actual gear shift lever,depends where the pegs and lever is to the actual gearbox shaft.These linkages should be able to be adjusted to move the foot shift lever...i attach a pic

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    you may have this
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