Microsoft to give away Windows 10, unveils hologram glasses

[bogan]

ok bogan if that makes you feel better you have your distorted view of where the restrictions stem from

I personally still haven't found a PC capable of playing FC4 that I can put in my pocket but I haven't really looked either

Simple venn diagram logic.

You'd have to look pretty hard too, cos it would be heaps smaller than the tank I use to play it.

[Scuba_Steve]

So then what's so special about this hologram glasses? Seems like an overpriced accessory only the hardcore will get with limited use which will eventually go the way of Google Glass & the Power Glove

[bogan]

Seems like an overpriced accessory

This from an apple fanboi?

I saw the motorbike moddy thing in their vid; I'll buy one if that eventuates, would be fucking useful too.

[Scuba_Steve]

This from an apple fanboi?

I saw the motorbike moddy thing in their vid; I'll buy one if that eventuates, would be fucking useful too.

Apple fanboy? where you get that from??? I use Apple & I like it, but I also use Ubuntu, Android, & Win7. I have 6 PC's, 2 Macs a Samsung Galaxy & the wife has an iPad.
But hey if it helps you to think me a fanboi then have at it

[TheDemonLord]

Apple:

Artificially restrict the hardware it will run on
Double the price:

Have a proprietry OS that doesn't easily run on other devices that is really just a jazzed up version of Linux (without the good parts of Linux)
Force consumers to use their software to interface with their devices (I had an Ipod - loved it, Hated iTunes, also hated the fact that unlike every other MP3 player, I couldn't natively add music or other files to it)
Apple Fanboys (seriously, they are the worst)
No right click button without using a third party mouse (I live for the right click)
a focus on aesthetic design as opposed to functionality
OSX upgrades that can be described like this

This:

No Games (well, no games anyone wants to play)
Can't do all the things I like doing on my PC without effing around with WINE or similar (not that WINE is hard to use, but I am lazy)
Did I mention Apple Fanboys?
Having proprietry connectors for EVERY FUCKING THING (seriously, everyone else uses USB and it works and I don't have to pay out the arse for an apple branded cable that I can't use on anything else)
Apple Server edition (it exists, I used it, it was horrible)
And finally
Apple Fanboys

[Scuba_Steve]

Apple:
Artificially restrict the hardware it will run on
Double the price:

Yes & no, they're similar priced for similar pre-built products, in-fact I had a mate buy a macbook pro which he then proceeded to remove OS X & install Windows on because it was the best value for the specs...

Have a proprietry OS that doesn't easily run on other devices that is really just a jazzed up version of Linux (without the good parts of Linux)

It's based on BSD, it's jazzed up Unix & what would be the "good parts" of Linux it's missing?

No right click button without using a third party mouse (I live for the right click)

Yea sure... like a decade ago, catch up with the times grandpa.

a focus on aesthetic design as opposed to functionality

Last I checked (& I'm using one now) it has both.

No Games (well, no games anyone wants to play)

pfft yea, no-one likes Civ series, TF2, Half-Life, Fallout, CoD, Sims, Counter Strike, Left 4 Dead, Portal

Did I mention Apple Fanboys?

Lest they're not Windows or XB fanboys right, those cunts are the worst! But yea any fanboys are bad.

Having proprietry connectors for EVERY FUCKING THING (seriously, everyone else uses USB and it works and I don't have to pay out the arse for an apple branded cable that I can't use on anything else)

Yea fuck USB3.0, HDMI, Thunderbolt & other "proprietary" connections made by other companies Apple just happen to put in their devices, fuck em all!

[R650R]

The thing about Apple products like ipad etc is that they always work. Microcrapware is always downloading updates and patches every five mins.
Eventually everything from a personal computing level will be app based via cloud servers and this is where apple has it sorted.

I used to be annoyed by all the pro apple coverage but eventually got an ipad as its value as a mobile electronic portfolio was priceless plus the ability to do other minor tasks.
Even my new truck has an ipad in it that does SFA except communicate what product has been loaded/unloaded. One single app that could prob be run off any competitor tablet but ipad has the reputation of always working.
One time my personal one did lock up/crash, but after googling it was like a 2 sec job to hard reset and reboot it with instant restart, not half an hour like windows shit as it reloads everything off the harddrive injto ram...

[Akzle]

The thing about Apple products like ipad etc is that they always work. Microcrapware is always downloading updates and patches every five mins.
Eventually everything from a personal computing level will be app based via cloud servers and this is where apple has it sorted.

I used to be annoyed by all the pro apple coverage but eventually got an ipad as its value as a mobile electronic portfolio was priceless plus the ability to do other minor tasks.
Even my new truck has an ipad in it that does SFA except communicate what product has been loaded/unloaded. One single app that could prob be run off any competitor tablet but ipad has the reputation of always working.
One time my personal one did lock up/crash, but after googling it was like a 2 sec job to hard reset and reboot it with instant restart, not half an hour like windows shit as it reloads everything off the harddrive injto ram...

see comic #3 post #50.
...yall hear now.

Women and ignorant cunts should be banned from computing.

Bring in licenses... Class 1, abacus.... Class 3, mobile ph. Class 5, a pc.

[TheDemonLord]

Yes & no, they're similar priced for similar pre-built products, in-fact I had a mate buy a macbook pro which he then proceeded to remove OS X & install Windows on because it was the best value for the specs...

No.

Bog standard macbook pro - $1,499

Specs:

2.6 GHz (i5-4278U) dual-core Intel Core i5 Haswell processor with 3 MB shared L3 cache
4 Gb 1600 mhz DDR3 RAM
500 Gb, 5400 RPM HDD

Compare

http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?e=2942533

Price: 1,300 - for a Better processor, More Ram, better HDD etc.

And OSX artificially limits the hardware it will install on - windows will install on pretty much anything.

It's based on BSD, it's jazzed up Unix & what would be the "good parts" of Linux it's missing?

The ability to install it on anything I like, apt-get, Grub, I could go on.

Yea sure... like a decade ago, catch up with the times grandpa.

http://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com...?itok=nW-2souX

Nope - no right click button there - I understand the mouse has the ability to send a right click, but this needs to be enabled in the Mac OSX - compared to a proper mouse:

http://static.trustedreviews.com/94/...5-img4762s.jpg

Last I checked (& I'm using one now) it has both.

My opinion is that the Macbooks and especially the Macbook air is that they are flimsy - my current work laptop survived sliding down SHW1 with me, still works without issue

pfft yea, no-one likes Civ series, TF2, Half-Life, Fallout, CoD, Sims, Counter Strike, Left 4 Dead, Portal

Woah, epic name drops - how many of those are less than 5 years old? None? The only reason they have been ported to a Mac is because they are popular, without popularity, they would not be ported to a Mac, therefore your retort is null and void

Lest they're not Windows or XB fanboys right, those cunts are the worst! But yea any fanboys are bad.

Windows has its problems and I can admit that, get a Mac Fanboy to admit the problems of Mac

Yea fuck USB3.0, HDMI, Thunderbolt & other "proprietary" connections made by other companies Apple just happen to put in their devices, fuck em all!

Iphone connector: http://www3.pcmag.com/media/images/3...or.jpg?thumb=y
Everyone elses connector: http://www.rokutaneld.se/images/mikr...996109f6888264

Newer Iphone connector (also known as proping up Apple's retirement fund by making everyone buy new proprietry cables): http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/09/he...daptor-for-it/
Everyone elses connector: http://www.rokutaneld.se/images/mikr...996109f6888264

[scracha]

openoffice> apache office>
sharepoint... yeah, not since they invented this thing called the internet...

Actually, the version management features on Sharepoint are fantastic. Wish I had a copy in this office.

[Scuba_Steve]

No.

Bog standard macbook pro - $1,499

Specs:

2.6 GHz (i5-4278U) dual-core Intel Core i5 Haswell processor with 3 MB shared L3 cache
4 Gb 1600 mhz DDR3 RAM
500 Gb, 5400 RPM HDD

Compare

http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?e=2942533

Price: 1,300 - for a Better processor, More Ram, better HDD etc.

Cool...

And OSX artificially limits the hardware it will install on - windows will install on pretty much anything.

Really? A HW company limits the machines their SW (which they don't sell) will install on... Say it aint so
Next you'll be telling me GoPro limits the devices it's FW will install on too

The ability to install it on anything I like, apt-get, Grub, I could go on.

No, really? OS X (a BSD derivative) doesn't run the Debian package manager who would have thought
Also rEFInd will help with your GRUB worries

http://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com...?itok=nW-2souX

Nope - no right click button there - I understand the mouse has the ability to send a right click, but this needs to be enabled in the Mac OSX - compared to a proper mouse:

Yes 2 fingers "right clicks"... do you actually need it to 'click', are you THAT backwards you need a physical 'click' to be happy?
Also that 3rd party "proper mouse", that'd you'd have to buy separately to any computer, works with macs too

My opinion is that the Macbooks and especially the Macbook air is that they are flimsy - my current work laptop survived sliding down SHW1 with me, still works without issue

Better built than alot of systems, but still weaker than alot too... They're not designed for "ruggedness" but not sure what that has to do with Blue Cod prices lately

Woah, epic name drops - how many of those are less than 5 years old? None? The only reason they have been ported to a Mac is because they are popular, without popularity, they would not be ported to a Mac, therefore your retort is null and void

So you claim "no games" I list some games, you claim "doesn't count cause they're old" (Sims4, CoD whatever the latest is, Civ Beyond Earth aint old either just FYI)

Iphone connector: http://www3.pcmag.com/media/images/3...or.jpg?thumb=y
Everyone elses connector: http://www.rokutaneld.se/images/mikr...996109f6888264
Newer Iphone connector (also known as proping up Apple's retirement fund by making everyone buy new proprietry cables): http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/09/he...daptor-for-it/
Everyone elses connector: http://www.rokutaneld.se/images/mikr...996109f6888264

Pretty sure we were talking computers & have already established the iOS line is "locked down" so yea... Don't disagree, just don't get the relevance

[Akzle]

Nope - no right click button there - I understand the mouse has the ability to send a right click, but this needs to be enabled in the Mac OSX - compared to a proper mouse:





Iphone connector:
Everyone elses connector:

Newer Iphone connector (also known as proping up Apple's retirement fund by making everyone buy new proprietry cables):
Everyone elses connector:

is it quoted embeded media, if it wasn't originally said?
or, if m gobs off j in the woods, will akzle get infracted?

Actually, the version management features on Sharepoint are fantastic. Wish I had a copy in this office.

< openoffice

[wharekura]

... I wonder how MSDN is going to fit in with their strategy?

pretty well for us developers. They have a community edition of Visual Studio and as I am starting a small development house 1/4/15 - this is great - it saves me heaps. Also four around $500 per year can get all the server software.

[TheDemonLord]

Cool...

You (and your friend) are welcome)

Really? A HW company limits the machines their SW (which they don't sell) will install on... Say it aint so
Next you'll be telling me GoPro limits the devices it's FW will install on too

I am not sure of your point here - My hardware will run Windows, various flavours of Linux etc. but won't run OSX - because OSX (made by Apple) is designed to only run on an artificially limited selection of hardware

No, really? OS X (a BSD derivative) doesn't run the Debian package manager who would have thought
Also rEFInd will help with your GRUB worries

Again - FreeBSD has an equivalent to apt-get, I've used rEDInd - hated it, gone back to Grub for a multi-OS loader

Yes 2 fingers "right clicks"... do you actually need it to 'click', are you THAT backwards you need a physical 'click' to be happy?
Also that 3rd party "proper mouse", that'd you'd have to buy separately to any computer, works with macs too

A mouse that requires 2 fingers to click one button - now that is:

FUCKING.
RETARDED.

All of my buttons need 1 finger, because sometimes (especially gaming) I might need to click more than one button at a time.

and no - a 3rd party mouse doesn't just work with a Mac:

http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Logite...ly/td-p/525593

Better built than alot of systems, but still weaker than alot too... They're not designed for "ruggedness" but not sure what that has to do with Blue Cod prices lately

There are ruggedised laptops, there are normal laptops, then there are flimsy laptops - the Apple Macbook fits in the later catogary - my point is that Aesthetics was more of a priority than functionality

So you claim "no games" I list some games, you claim "doesn't count cause they're old" (Sims4, CoD whatever the latest is, Civ Beyond Earth aint old either just FYI)

the latest CoD (Advanced warfare) hasn't been ported to Mac OSX neither was CoD ghosts. so yes, if you want to play a few crappy Sim games, or games that are over 5 years old, then yes - you can 'game' on a Mac - if however you are like me and actually like playing games (so access to the entire steam library, niche games, indy games, latest releases) then you need a PC

Pretty sure we were talking computers & have already established the iOS line is "locked down" so yea... Don't disagree, just don't get the relevance

Its the same philosophy behind why new Mac Book air doesn't have a Network port - but you can buy a network port adapter for an extortionate price

[bogan]

There are ruggedised laptops, there are normal laptops, then there are flimsy laptops - the Apple Macbook fits in the later catogary - my point is that Aesthetics was more of a priority than functionality

Build quality question, Asus or Apple? I've found asus to be fucking mint for desktop components...

Apple seems to teir for what they decide should be the circumstances it is used in. Ie, it is flimsy but sexy and long life batt for the artist/office worker on the go. Macs don't have enough software for engineers to use em in the field so that cuts down on the used for ruggedised stuff (mind you 98% of ruggedisiation benefits are for numpties anyway).

and no - a 3rd party mouse doesn't just work with a Mac:

M95 support or gtfo.