I want to corner faster but how?

[iranana]

Cornering is something that has taken me years to refine. The key is to take it easy and let your confidence and skills gradually build up. Don't underestimate the value of getting good with low speed manoeuvrability, too. Helps in all aspects of riding. Works for me, anyway. If someone's giving you shit about being slow, then just don't ride with them. Friends shouldn't encourage friends to ride (or drive) outside of their comfort zone. It's all about preservation, without living in a bubble.

[george formby]

Cornering is something that has taken me years to refine. The key is to take it easy and let your confidence and skills gradually build up. Don't underestimate the value of getting good with low speed manoeuvrability, too. Helps in all aspects of riding. Works for me, anyway. If someone's giving you shit about being slow, then just don't ride with them. Friends shouldn't encourage friends to ride (or drive) outside of their comfort zone. It's all about preservation, without living in a bubble.

Commendable post. I pretty much feel the same way. After decades of riding I finally learned how to go round a corner in a car park. What a wake up call.
I have zero tolerance for risky riders. I have yet to meet a psychic biker.

Cassina, peer pressure stopped for me more than 20 years ago. All the people I ride with gauge there pace to give the slowest / newest / least confident rider a good fun day out. If I see a following rider running wide out of corners I slow down. Lots of discussion about riding & observation so we can all improve.
Ego & image are irrelevant.
Jeez that sounds trite, I love a good fang as much anyone but I do consider those I ride with, whether I could put them at risk or they could lure me beyond my ability.
It keeps on boiling down to the same thing, training & practice. Take nothing for granted.

I rode the Broadwood road a few weeks ago, the Mangamuka alternative. Had me Dad in tow and he is more boiling fowl than spring chicken nowadays. He can certainly punt a bike, though. Any hoo, we were nipping along and got onto a stretch of road with major subsidence, basically smooth holes. I approached a delicious uphill left hander, looked perfect for chucking the bike on it's ear & putting the hammer in but it was in deep shade from trees. Sure enough, right on the apex their is a very deep slump, almost a foot deep. Proper nasty if you were going to quick, I saw it and rode around it.
When we got home me Dad told me he was following my lines as close as he could and did not see the slump until he was virtually on it. Shook him a little despite not riding into it.
That's a win for my mentality I reckon.
Home safe is fundamental for everybody.

[george formby]

Just been talking about the above post with my better half. A pertinent point came up. If you can watch the road and the rider in front of you comfortably then the pace is pretty good. To much watching the bike ahead causes problems.

Kinda trumps my earlier post but relevant to the thread. Any hoo. Safety first.
Just sayin.

[Bikemad]

Will agree with you there as that is the most dangerous thing about group rides as safety goes out the door with many when there is pressure to keep up.

OMG............please............not again

[ellipsis]

...you all keep talking to it...what the fuck do you expect...

[george formby]

If your Dad had focussed on the road and other traffic and not trying to keep up with you there is still a possibility he may have seen the slump in plenty of time anyway.

Maybe, but even at 20kmh he did not see it until he was on top of it, eyesight thing in bad, flat, light and maybe tinted visor. That's why I slowed down so much. On earlier rides I had picked up that he was late in registering changes in road surface so rode to suit.
Any hoo. I should not post when I get in from work. Well off topic.
I apologise for rambling.

[ellipsis]

I think its a good idea to post safety advice more than once as you never know if the person who reads it is not reading it for the first time now do you?

...what fucking advice you fucking moron... you are even worse than I originally suspected...fuck off!...

[ellipsis]

A moron like you would not see it as advise anyway so why are you wasting your time responding to my posts ????

...advice I would advise...cunt...

[bluninja]

Since you have stated it I would say the tinted visor would be the major issue for not seeing it. I will always flip my visor up should the light get bad even with a clear one.

So you risk being blinded by road debris (flying loose metal chips), insects, rain, dust, wind. If you keep a clear visor clean and scratch free there should be no issue with visibility in low or poor light conditions.....or do you ride at night with the visor up?

[bluninja]

I wear glasses under my visor which are better than the visor for optical quality so I still am able to have protection in low light. As I live in a city with tar sealed roads the chance of being blinded by gravel is slim. Fogging is an issue that can affect visors so even if its brand new if it starts fogging up it is safer to flip it up.

And are your spectacles impact resistant like your visor? I suspect they are rose tinted. As for tar sealed roads.....I have had to replace 2 windscreens due to small stones or debris hitting the car and it's only driven on tar sealed roads. Fogging; there are very good systems on modern helmets to prevent fogging...it's safer to fit one than risk being temporarily blinded and driving into some other vehicle you can't see.

[SVboy]

Cassina-the KB version of herpies!

[bluninja]

If you read my post again I said I flip my visor up if it starts fogging so there is no way like you claim that I am going to ride trying to look through a fogged up visor!!! Fogging up never lasts long anyway and mostly happens when stopped at the lights for me. Once moving again the fogging goes away or I will just flip the visor up again. I do have some of that Fog off fluid but am yet to try it on my visor so will give it a go sometime. As for buying a new helmet with fog prevention built in the visor I am not going to worry about that as fogging is mostly an around town thing and traffic generally does not go fast enough to flick stones as high as my visor anyway. Just as some of you guys have never crashed I have never been hit by a stone chip in my face.

Perhaps that's because they are attracted by gravity to the large chip on your shoulder.

[nzspokes]

If you read my post again I said I flip my visor up if it starts fogging so there is no way like you claim that I am going to ride trying to look through a fogged up visor!!! Fogging up never lasts long anyway and mostly happens when stopped at the lights for me. Once moving again the fogging goes away or I will just flip the visor up again. I do have some of that Fog off fluid but am yet to try it on my visor so will give it a go sometime. As for buying a new helmet with fog prevention built in the visor I am not going to worry about that as fogging is mostly an around town thing and traffic generally does not go fast enough to flick stones as high as my visor anyway. Just as some of you guys have never crashed I have never been hit by a stone chip in my face.

You are a danger on the roads, go buy a pinlock visor before you kill somebody.

[Katman]

You are a danger on the roads, go buy a pinlock visor before you kill somebody.

Are you serious?

Do you actually think not having a pin lock visor makes someone a danger on the road?

[FJRider]

You are a danger on the roads, go buy a pinlock visor before you kill somebody.

I have NEVER had a pinlock visor ... and in over 40 years of motorcycling ... NEVER killed anybody (on the road) ...

Perhaps I need more rider training to change that ...


And ........... I use a clothes peg to stop the visor closing completely. AND ... I admit ... I have lost a few pegs over the years ...