Why housing costs are so ridiculously high

[husaberg]

Ah, the Chief Twat has weighed in.
What has the number of jobs in the country got to do with wimmin on the DPB?
It's a simple concept really, get knocked up (once), hubby (or wife) runs off or dies - the state should support you and the kid (and I agree the amount is too low).
But have a second kid whilst yer on the DPB?
That's a whole other thing.

That's not going anywhere near far enough Oscar, to make it fair any man that fathers a child with theses wanton hussies, should be made actually pay for the upkeep of that child directly rather than it being the taxpayers burden.
Failing that maybe remove their willies.
Where is a sarcasm font gone.

[blue rider]

oh well maybe we want to stop talking about tying tubes and cutting willies....ack ack ack its so messy.

maybe we should just accept the fact that people like fucking. There, its fun, its messy, it makes us feel good, its awesome stress relieve n what not. Maybe we should also admit that many if not most of us have done the noughty without being married, without wanting to procreate and with partners that we never wanted to be with or get married to but who were ultimatlvly very fuckable.

Such is life. And sometimes people fuck even when they are poor, or they fuck because they are lonely, or because they are drunk, or because they want to be loved....or any other reason, but mainly because us humans we like to fuck.

it is easy to single out women for irresponsible fucking, but really those welfare babies are not making themselfs alone, man need to come to the party and help with the fucking.

but really I understand Oscar, i do. And because I want him to feel good about himself I will add a different picture for him. One that he will like better.



and for those that are interested in who receives that Benefit that does not exist anymore becasue done away by National here are the new rules and regulations, that, btw apply to single Dads or single Mums be they just slutty singles, or divorced parents, or widowed parents.

http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/ind...le-parent.html

[bogan]

oh well maybe we want to stop talking about tying tubes and cutting willies....ack ack ack its so messy.

maybe we should just accept the fact that people like fucking. There, its fun, its messy, it makes us feel good, its awesome stress relieve n what not. Maybe we should also admit that many if not most of us have done the noughty without being married, without wanting to procreate and with partners that we never wanted to be with or get married to but who were ultimatlvly very fuckable.

Such is life. And sometimes people fuck even when they are poor, or they fuck because they are lonely, or because they are drunk, or because they want to be loved....or any other reason, but mainly because us humans we like to fuck.

it is easy to single out women for irresponsible fucking, but really those welfare babies are not making themselfs alone, man need to come to the party and help with the fucking.

but really I understand Oscar, i do. And because I want him to feel good about himself I will add a different picture for him. One that he will like better.

Speaking of fucking, you're fucking way off the track now

The deliberate decision to have a child despite being unable to provide for them is the point. Accident happen, unplanned pregnancies, unplanned loss of parents/income; this is what welfare is for. What it is not for, is to encourage people to have children despite their lack of ability to provide for them.

[husaberg]

I have got it, Oscar is really on to something, We need a new law.
Hence force there shall be no fornication with out the ownership of accommodation.
So for all those Horny bitches out there feeling a little left out, because of this new law, I do have a 5 bedroom house.

[blue rider]

Speaking of fucking, you're fucking way off the track now

The deliberate decision to have a child despite being unable to provide for them is the point. Accident happen, unplanned pregnancies, unplanned loss of parents/income; this is what welfare is for. What it is not for, is to encourage people to have children despite their lack of ability to provide for them.

Again you did not realise what Mike Hoskins refered to with his comment. His comment was about Man having issues paying alimony as per the new rules under which the IRD now establishes how much a divorced/seperated Father has to pay.

So while you and Oscar are going on and on about women.....having babies for fun, Hoskins is telling Man not to have children that they can afford.

Feel better now? As I said above, that would mean that before you, Oskar or humpty dumpty could even think abut finding a lovley lass to procreate about you should have at least 25 years of child rearing costs tucked away because if you can't afford your child when sick, or unemployed, or a widower, someone like Hoskins can and will call you a bludger.

And to all the blokes that think only women are irresponsibly having children, no according to Hoskins, Man do to.

[bogan]

Again you did not realise what Mike Hoskins refered to with his comment. His comment was about Man having issues paying alimony as per the new rules under which the IRD now establishes how much a divorced/seperated Father has to pay.

So while you and Oscar are going on and on about women.....having babies for fun, Hoskins is telling Man not to have children that they can afford.

Feel better now? As I said above, that would mean that before you, Oskar or humpty dumpty could even think abut finding a lovley lass to procreate about you should have at least 25 years of child rearing costs tucked away because if you can't afford your child when sick, or unemployed, or a widower, someone like Hoskins can and will call you a bludger.

And to all the blokes that think only women are irresponsibly having children, no according to Hoskins, Man do to.

And what exactly is your problem with that? All I've seen is you twatting on about some feminist drivel. What exactly has Hoskins and Oscar said that has so upset your sense of feminism?

Not at all, you simply have to have the means to pay for them as you go.

Who has the responsibility to abort the birth?

[nodrog:Me]

And what exactly is your problem with that? All I've seen is you twatting on about some feminist drivel. What exactly has Hoskins and Oscar said that has so upset your sense of feminism?

Not at all, you simply have to have the means to pay for them as you go.

Who has the responsibility to abort the birth?

Maybe she can't afford a house with a tongue and groove floor.

[blue rider]

And what exactly is your problem with that? All I've seen is you twatting on about some feminist drivel. What exactly has Hoskins and Oscar said that has so upset your sense of feminism?

Not at all, you simply have to have the means to pay for them as you go.

Who has the responsibility to abort the birth?

abortion in nz is criminal, albeit permitted in some cases.

i have an issue with what Hoskins says insofar as circumstances change. People have children, they love their children ,they raise them and then they die, have an accident, get unemployed and at that stage might need help from the same government that they helped finance while they worked and paid taxes. The children will eventually work and pay taxes to the same government.

that is why the comment is so outrageous. It implies that people that can't assure to have an income till the end of their lifes shall not have certain things we take for granted. Most people will want children at some stage in their lifes. But now only someone with a Trustfund and a guaranteed income for the rest of their lifes can have a child?


As for the rest, dear Bogan, i did not start with the bene abuse. I merely pointed out that Mike Hoskins is a statuesque micro penis, who is ugly inside and out who should think twice about his comments.

Life has an issue of biting people in the arse every now and then, today one has a job, a nice house, a lovely wife/husband/partner, and tomorrow nada, nix zilch.

[bogan]

abortion in nz is criminal, albeit permitted in some cases.

i have an issue with what Hoskins says insofar as circumstances change. People have children, they love their children ,they raise them and then they die, have an accident, get unemployed and at that stage might need help from the same government that they helped finance while they worked and paid taxes. The children will eventually work and pay taxes to the same government.

that is why the comment is so outrageous. It implies that people that can't assure to have an income till the end of their lifes shall not have certain things we take for granted. Most people will want children at some stage in their lifes. But now only someone with a Trustfund and a guaranteed income for the rest of their lifes can have a child?


As for the rest, dear Bogan, i did not start with the bene abuse. I merely pointed out that Mike Hoskins is a statuesque micro penis, who is ugly inside and out who should think twice about his comments.

Life has an issue of biting people in the arse every now and then, today one has a job, a nice house, a lovely wife/husband/partner, and tomorrow nada, nix zilch.

And how exactly was the comment about accidental loss of income instead of deliberate reliance on the benefit?

[BMWST?]

Get ready for a huge price increase for new houses.
New workplace Safety Reform due to start about July.
Just had a short training course and my workplace is going to be about 25% less efficient.
Ill be required to wear safety glasses and gloves 100% of the time. Cant wait to fit off electronics in gloves.

http://www.mbie.govt.nz/what-we-do/w...-safety-reform

its all a bit stupid now.I work in a prenail plant.If i have to go to the toilet i walk through the factory.I have to don ear muffs to make the 30 second walk

[husaberg]

its all a bit stupid now.I work in a prenail plant.If i have to go to the toilet i walk through the factory.I have to don ear muffs to make the 30 second walk

We have to ensure everyone wears Full body cover of fire retardant PPE while just in the depot loading utes yet none of the stuff we load is even flammable...........

[Ocean1]

its all a bit stupid now.I work in a prenail plant.If i have to go to the toilet i walk through the factory.I have to don ear muffs to make the 30 second walk

We have to ensure everyone wears Full body cover of fire retardant PPE while just in the depot loading utes yet none of the stuff we load is even flammable...........

And people wonder why they can't make ends meet. I see we're still not in the black re the national budget, I wonder what all of this safety fetish actually costs every year...

[husaberg]

And people wonder why they can't make ends meet. I see we're still not in the black re the national budget, I wonder what all of this safety fetish actually costs every year...

From what I understand its about $700 each pair.
They are needed in the field, through. but in the depot the only thing that is likely to catch fire appears to be the receptionists crotch.
The budgets in the red and it will stay in the red cause the Nats keep borrowing and at the same time selling us all out for more debt.

Government debt has reached $60 billion, having climbed $27 million a day since John Key became prime minister - and forecasts show it will rise for years to come.

Despite tax revenue being higher than expected and expenses lower in recent months, Treasury figures show net Crown debt reached the highest yet at $60,015,000,000 at the end of September.

It already equates to 28 per cent of New Zealand's economic output, is more than $13,000 for every person in New Zealand and is forecast to climb by another $10b by 2017.

When National took control of the Beehive in 2008, debt was just over $10b,

[Ocean1]

From what I understand its about $700 each pair.
They are needed in the field, through. but in the depot the only thing that is likely to catch fire appears to be the receptionists crotch.
The budgets in the red and it will stay in the red cause the Nats keep borrowing and at the same time selling us all out for more debt.

I meant the whole national safety caboodle. Including probably 10% extra labour involved.

Have you seen the reaction when they start talking about spending less?

[Laava]

Sorry to get back on topic but interestingly the price of housing going up hasn't been affected by chippies putting their rates up. Yet. I was getting better labour only rates 12 yrs ago. That is likely to change real soon.