David Bain

[AllanB]

Jesus - the media are still talking about this shit.

Apparently he wants zillions from the Government in compo for being locked up.


I appear to have a totally uneducated absolutely basis opinion on this subject that really has little justification given my total lack of research into the claim.

Thus I feel absolutely entitled to post on Kiwibiker (see I have obviously read our site rules - one MUST form a opinion regardless of having any knowledge about the subject in question).

I am however oddly interested in other peoples opinions on the subject of Bain and $$$$$$$$$


Post away. May I preempt Alzles post: Fuckin Jews need to front up and root themselves - or something along those lines. I may be doing him a injustice though and look forward to his post.

[MD]

He committed hideous crimes against fashion wearing THAT jersey. The 13 odd years in lock up should be considered fair punishment for his fashion crime which would have run concurrently with the murder sentence. So it all balances out in the end.

[sidecar bob]

Pay the poor bastard out & move on. The Maoris have been paid out zillions more for pretending to be aggrieved about pretending to be the indigenous people of NZ.

[oldrider]

Bain was judged not guilty beyond all reasonable doubt and set free - that does not mean he is innocent - simply not proved guilty!

No problem with that - grant him his freedom!

Now he wants compensation - "NO" - not unless he (or somebody else) can prove that he "is" actually innocent! - if he can do that - pay him out! - End of story!

[Akzle]

find the instance i have capitalised "Jews". go ahead.



as for bain, he was framed by the crown. should he get compo? yes. will he? unlikely.

guilty or not, they did not have enough evidence to convict him. and in a country that pretends to presume innocence until proof of guilt, it's a dangerous precedent to set.

...because of them fucken jews.

[AllanB]

Whattttt someone hack Aklzes password, darn post almost makes good sense. Hmmmm he has a point regarding the capitalization of the J.


The jersey is a interesting story - I too remember the first images of Mr Bain cuffed and being escorted by the Police wearing that hideous jersey. I rapidly concluded GUILTY on the basis of the pedo jersey - surely he must have flipped and shot the lot of them.

HOWEVER

It turns out the jersey was provided by the police out of a lost and found box as he was cold ..............

[Katman]

I too remember the first images of Mr Bain cuffed and being escorted by the Police wearing that hideous jersey. I rapidly concluded GUILTY on the basis of the pedo jersey - surely he must have flipped and shot the lot of them.

You should probably avoid jury service.

[Murray]

I still cannot understand why through this whole sad affair David Bain always refused to take the stand??

[mr bucketracer]

It was a lucky guess when David Bain told 111 ambulance officer they are all dead, despite later saying he only saw two bodies
Again a lucky guess hen DB told police officer they are all dead
The 25 minute gap between DB finding his family dead and calling 111 is in no way connected with trying to wash clothes and removed blood.
The bruise on David’s head and scratches on his chest and graze on his knee – none of which he could explain, were just a coincidence
The lens from his glasses found in Stephen’s room happened weeks ago and he never noticed OR someone else had borrowed the glasses
The lack of fresh injuries on Robin despite the massive struggle with Stephen is just the product of healthy living
David’s finger prints on gun are from a previous time
David telling a friend he had premonition something bad was going to happen was a genuine psychic experience
Stephen’s blood on David’s clothing was nothing to do with the struggle – OR someone else borrowed his clothes
Robin managed to execute his family on a full bladder
The lock and key to the rifle being found in David’s room is not relevant as they were obviously placed there
Robin decided to wash David’s green jersey to remove blood and the fibres from jersey found under Steven’s finger nails
David’s bloody palm print on the washing machine was from him checking the bodies
The Ambulance officer was wrong when he said in his opinion Bain was pretending to have a fit
Robin Bain would logically wear gloves to prevent fingerprints despite it being a murder-suicide
That Robin Bain would type a message on a computer for David telling him he is the only one who deserves to live, instead of writing a note. A hand written note incidentally would have cleared David.
Also that having just shot his family, and knowing David was due home, that Robin would wait 44 seconds for the computer to boot up to leave a message
Robin would decide David deserved to live, but go out of his way to frame him for murder
Robin Bain placed fibres from Davids jersey under Stephen’s finger nails
Robin Bain would shoot himself with a gun in the most awkward way possible?
That Robin Bain changed jerseys after he had killed his family and in particular Stephen Bain, washed the jersey, hung it on the line and then change into a brown jersey before killing himself?
That there is a logical reason that David Bain can not account for the injuries on his face, the bruise or the scraped knee, yet knows he did not have them during his paper run.
That Robin Bain put blood on the inside of David’s duvet and on his light switch
That there is an innocent explanation for why David says he put on washing before he discovered the bodies, yet there is a blood print on the washing machine.
That Laniet was being paranoid when she told friends she was scared of David
That the “family meeting” David called the previous night and insisted everyone attended was not a way to make sure everyone would be at home to kill.
That Robin Bain would wear a hat while shooting himself in the head.
That even though David told a relative he hated his father, his father did not know this and deliberately decided David was the only one who deserved to live
That David either imagined hearing Laniet gurgling or she gurgled 20 minutes after death
That Laniet allegations of incent with Robin was true, as was her claims she had given birth three times by the age of 12 and a half.
That Robin Bain managed to kill four family members without a single trace of his blood, skin, or DNA being left at the scene.
That it is a coincidence that on the morning of the murders Bain took his dog onto a property, ensuring he would be noticed to give him an alibi.
That the magazine found balanced on an edge next to Robin was not placed there by David but fell onto its edge from Robin’s arms.

[Akzle]

I still cannot understand why through this whole sad affair David Bain always refused to take the stand??

that's called "sound legal advice"

otherwise known as "lawyerjews is tricky with words"

as calvin coolidge said: "i've never been hurt by anything i didn't say"

[Akzle]

also, legally (jewly) you have the right against self incrimination.

[Akzle]

It was a lucky guess when David Bain told 111 ambulance officer they are all dead, despite later saying he only saw two bodies
Again a lucky guess hen DB told police officer they are all dead
The 25 minute gap between DB finding his family dead and calling 111 is in no way connected with trying to wash clothes and removed blood.
The bruise on David’s head and scratches on his chest and graze on his knee – none of which he could explain, were just a coincidence
The lens from his glasses found in Stephen’s room happened weeks ago and he never noticed OR someone else had borrowed the glasses
The lack of fresh injuries on Robin despite the massive struggle with Stephen is just the product of healthy living
David’s finger prints on gun are from a previous time
David telling a friend he had premonition something bad was going to happen was a genuine psychic experience
Stephen’s blood on David’s clothing was nothing to do with the struggle – OR someone else borrowed his clothes
Robin managed to execute his family on a full bladder
The lock and key to the rifle being found in David’s room is not relevant as they were obviously placed there
Robin decided to wash David’s green jersey to remove blood and the fibres from jersey found under Steven’s finger nails
David’s bloody palm print on the washing machine was from him checking the bodies
The Ambulance officer was wrong when he said in his opinion Bain was pretending to have a fit
Robin Bain would logically wear gloves to prevent fingerprints despite it being a murder-suicide
That Robin Bain would type a message on a computer for David telling him he is the only one who deserves to live, instead of writing a note. A hand written note incidentally would have cleared David.
Also that having just shot his family, and knowing David was due home, that Robin would wait 44 seconds for the computer to boot up to leave a message
Robin would decide David deserved to live, but go out of his way to frame him for murder
Robin Bain placed fibres from Davids jersey under Stephen’s finger nails
Robin Bain would shoot himself with a gun in the most awkward way possible?
That Robin Bain changed jerseys after he had killed his family and in particular Stephen Bain, washed the jersey, hung it on the line and then change into a brown jersey before killing himself?
That there is a logical reason that David Bain can not account for the injuries on his face, the bruise or the scraped knee, yet knows he did not have them during his paper run.
That Robin Bain put blood on the inside of David’s duvet and on his light switch
That there is an innocent explanation for why David says he put on washing before he discovered the bodies, yet there is a blood print on the washing machine.
That Laniet was being paranoid when she told friends she was scared of David
That the “family meeting” David called the previous night and insisted everyone attended was not a way to make sure everyone would be at home to kill.
That Robin Bain would wear a hat while shooting himself in the head.
That even though David told a relative he hated his father, his father did not know this and deliberately decided David was the only one who deserved to live
That David either imagined hearing Laniet gurgling or she gurgled 20 minutes after death
That Laniet allegations of incent with Robin was true, as was her claims she had given birth three times by the age of 12 and a half.
That Robin Bain managed to kill four family members without a single trace of his blood, skin, or DNA being left at the scene.
That it is a coincidence that on the morning of the murders Bain took his dog onto a property, ensuring he would be noticed to give him an alibi.
That the magazine found balanced on an edge next to Robin was not placed there by David but fell onto its edge from Robin’s arms.

just quickly here, can we get your opinion on 9/11?


also. with so much apparent "evidence" - why did the police feel the need to plant more?

[awa355]

If that jersey had've been a cardigan, then would there have been any doubts at all??? as to his guilt??

[Grumph]

It was a lucky guess when David Bain told 111 ambulance officer they are all dead, despite later saying he only saw two bodies
Again a lucky guess hen DB told police officer they are all dead
The 25 minute gap between DB finding his family dead and calling 111 is in no way connected with trying to wash clothes and removed blood.
The bruise on David’s head and scratches on his chest and graze on his knee – none of which he could explain, were just a coincidence
The lens from his glasses found in Stephen’s room happened weeks ago and he never noticed OR someone else had borrowed the glasses
The lack of fresh injuries on Robin despite the massive struggle with Stephen is just the product of healthy living
David’s finger prints on gun are from a previous time
David telling a friend he had premonition something bad was going to happen was a genuine psychic experience
Stephen’s blood on David’s clothing was nothing to do with the struggle – OR someone else borrowed his clothes
Robin managed to execute his family on a full bladder
The lock and key to the rifle being found in David’s room is not relevant as they were obviously placed there
Robin decided to wash David’s green jersey to remove blood and the fibres from jersey found under Steven’s finger nails
David’s bloody palm print on the washing machine was from him checking the bodies
The Ambulance officer was wrong when he said in his opinion Bain was pretending to have a fit
Robin Bain would logically wear gloves to prevent fingerprints despite it being a murder-suicide
That Robin Bain would type a message on a computer for David telling him he is the only one who deserves to live, instead of writing a note. A hand written note incidentally would have cleared David.
Also that having just shot his family, and knowing David was due home, that Robin would wait 44 seconds for the computer to boot up to leave a message
Robin would decide David deserved to live, but go out of his way to frame him for murder
Robin Bain placed fibres from Davids jersey under Stephen’s finger nails
Robin Bain would shoot himself with a gun in the most awkward way possible?
That Robin Bain changed jerseys after he had killed his family and in particular Stephen Bain, washed the jersey, hung it on the line and then change into a brown jersey before killing himself?
That there is a logical reason that David Bain can not account for the injuries on his face, the bruise or the scraped knee, yet knows he did not have them during his paper run.
That Robin Bain put blood on the inside of David’s duvet and on his light switch
That there is an innocent explanation for why David says he put on washing before he discovered the bodies, yet there is a blood print on the washing machine.
That Laniet was being paranoid when she told friends she was scared of David
That the “family meeting” David called the previous night and insisted everyone attended was not a way to make sure everyone would be at home to kill.
That Robin Bain would wear a hat while shooting himself in the head.
That even though David told a relative he hated his father, his father did not know this and deliberately decided David was the only one who deserved to live
That David either imagined hearing Laniet gurgling or she gurgled 20 minutes after death
That Laniet allegations of incent with Robin was true, as was her claims she had given birth three times by the age of 12 and a half.
That Robin Bain managed to kill four family members without a single trace of his blood, skin, or DNA being left at the scene.
That it is a coincidence that on the morning of the murders Bain took his dog onto a property, ensuring he would be noticed to give him an alibi.
That the magazine found balanced on an edge next to Robin was not placed there by David but fell onto its edge from Robin’s arms.

When i met you and your family I was impressed by how a family from Palmy could hold such trenchant views on an event which happened in Dunedin...I would also have expected a little more sympathy given your bro's a dead spitt'in image of DB...
I don't know who did it - or care - but if a jury said not guilty you have to wonder at the government's attitude of stalling till he dies of old age.

[AllanB]

You should probably avoid jury service.

A fair call Kman and hand on heart I have managed to successfully avoid several requests for jury duty in the past. It's not that I so much object to being on the jury I do object to whatever fucking Government is in power deciding they have a maximum contribution to the amount they will pay me whilst on Jury duty regardless of the income. I have so far been employed by companies who will 'top-up' the difference so I am not disadvantaged while deciding if some scum-bag is guilty or not but I may not be in the future.

Check your employment agreement. Are you covered?

My current employer will 'top-up' but they will not write a letter to excuse me (being Government owned and all apparently that would be wrong) from jury duty.

I do have a master plan. If called during their employment I shall rock up on the first day of picking suitable members of the jury and proudly display my new 'GUILTY' T-shirt.

Is this wrong? Am I avoiding my civic rights? Will this result in a painful hemorrhoid?

But most importantly should I drink less wine before posting on KB?