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    Universe may have had no beginning

    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Is that peer reviewed information, and have you studied it for at least 40 yrs?
    For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. Keep an open mind, just dont let your brains fall out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    Is that peer reviewed information, and have you studied it for at least 40 yrs?
    Yes. Yes. Yes.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Where is the supporting You Tube clip and obscure reference
    DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Yes. Yes. Yes.
    Thats ok then, as you were.
    Actually I was reading something the other day about the make up of the moon and a different opinion on it's purpose, was bloody interesting.
    For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. Keep an open mind, just dont let your brains fall out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    Thats ok then, as you were.
    Actually I was reading something the other day about the make up of the moon and a different opinion on it's purpose, was bloody interesting.
    Me too... except this guy was trying to explain an energy wave that rolled across the face of the moon a few times, the upshot being that it looks like a hologram to hide what's actually going on on the moon. I like that version
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    At the end of the day the question of how the universe started is a real mindfuck and nobody knows for sure.

    The thing that gets me is, what was there before the universe started, and what was there before that etc.

    You cannot have nothing.
    I mentioned vegetables once, but I think I got away with it...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    At the end of the day the question of how the universe started is a real mindfuck and nobody knows for sure.

    The thing that gets me is, what was there before the universe started, and what was there before that etc.

    You cannot have nothing.
    It's cost us several trillion $ to come up with the answers we have. How can you dismiss the intellect and science that has gone into giving us those answers? let alone calling them into question.

    TFH in the mail for ya.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    ...I don't know who this is attributable to...maybe Mr Hawking himself, and maybe worded differently too...'for a quantum mechanic to say they understand the physics of QM's means they know very little of what they study'...

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    The idea that before the big bang there was "nothing", is a pop-sci simplification in the first place.

    Like the difference between evolution and abiogenesis, the big bang and what was or wasn't "before" it, are separate questions.
    Measure once, cut twice. Practice makes perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post

    You cannot have nothing.
    ...I don't have enough, but it's not going to stop me visiting Melbourne next week for the F1 GP...

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    One of the things that I love about science is that its practitioners and supporters will change their views when evidence proves an hypothesis that overtakes theirs. This is the fundamental difference between "religion" and science.

    There's obviously a bit of work to do before the Big Bangers completely move away from that hypothesis.
    "Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    You cannot have nothing.
    Perhaps. But you're also assuming that time is both constant and linear.

    You've been dead longer than you've been alive. Or have you?
    "Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]

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    The most important part of the article:

    The new theory was explained in a paper published Feb. 4 in the journal Physical Letters B, and another paper that is currently under peer review
    As you all were - still being peer reviewed
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    How can you dismiss the intellect and science that has gone into giving us those answers? let alone calling them into question.

    TFH in the mail for ya.
    Oh quite easily really .. science is the only discipline that still acts as if they know the "truth" ... (even if they change their minds every 20 years or so ...)

    But Philosophy completely undermines that ...
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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