Cancer and the drug companies

[bogan]

Can you point my abuse out please oh sensitive one.

Can you point my abuse out please oh sensitive one.

The bit where you called me a dunce is the obvious choice.

Now can you point out how mine directed at you, differs from yours directed at me?

Or more on point, can you direct me to a post of yours containing a standalone point that is on topic and constructive?

[mashman]

Or more on point, can you direct me to a post of yours containing a standalone point that is on topic and constructive?

Yes, I can.

[Katman]

The bit where you called me a dunce is the obvious choice.

Now can you point out how mine directed at you, differs from yours directed at me?

Or more on point, can you direct me to a post of yours containing a standalone point that is on topic and constructive?

You should start door-knocking.

[bogan]

Yes, I can.

I see my first two point hit home.

Now you say you can, but will you show it? do you discuss points like an academic, or evade them like a politician?

You should start door-knocking.

Don't need to, true knowledge spreads itself Even on kiwibiker you guys are recognised as frauds and morons (Ed included).

[TheDemonLord]

The Malaghan Institute of Medical Research (NZ) are currently focusing their cancer reasearch on immuno-therapy, their cancer research page has multiple links to clincal studies and trials, scientific publications and research updates/highlights
http://www.malaghan.org.nz/what-we-do/cancer/

exciting stuff being spearheaded right here in NZ

Cheers for the Link - Do you have anything on hand that is a bit more indepth (the article appeared targeted at the Layman, I would like something with a little more meat on it)

[Swoop]

I think alternative treatments should be explored (I'm an advocate of naturopathy when it is appropriate), under one condition, any treatment is subject to the same rigorous testing and evaluation, and no treatment's results are massaged.

Some people might find it interesting to note that simply because of the connotation of "wacky and alternative", the review/s of any research in the naturopathy field is far more involved than mainstream research (say, from Auckland or Canterbury Universities).
Students study the same anatomy and physiology courses and have to sit the same exams for those courses as any other medical students. Only then do they branch off to naturally occurring compounds and medicines.

[mashman]

I see my first two point hit home.

Now you say you can, but will you show it? do you discuss points like an academic, or evade them like a politician?

Really? More assumptions

I did show it, even proved that the resources required are available.

[bogan]

Some people might find it interesting to note that simply because of the connotation of "wacky and alternative", the review/s of any research in the naturopathy field is far more involved than mainstream research (say, from Auckland or Canterbury Universities).
Students study the same anatomy and physiology courses and have to sit the same exams for those courses as any other medical students. Only then do they branch off to naturally occurring compounds and medicines.

I think part of that connotation is because they are more likely to explore other alternative treatments, vit c infusions, perhaps even homeopathy. Which shouldn't detract from their main field, and research, but it does seem to. It does seem like a no brainer though, drugs are just things you put in your body, so how can taking a holistic view of what goes in your body not help? The differences were made all too clear for me when I had a guts thing, Doc said nah just eat as normal and we'll book you in for an endoscopy, Naturopath said only eat these 7 things; reversed the illness within a week and no camera up the bumhole. Win-win!

Really? More assumptions

I did show it, even proved that the resources required are available.

Called it, again. Shall we just call you Hone?

[mashman]

Called it, again. Shall we just call you Hone?

No. You merely failed in your usual unscientific way.

[Banditbandit]

'course - you can always lop off bits ... like this one did ...


http://learningenglish.voanews.com/c...r/2695834.html

[Akzle]

'course - you can always lop off bits ... like this one did ...

she's a fucking surgery addict. ill in the head.

[oldrider]

'course - you can always lop off bits ... like this one did ...

So they will never know whether she never had it - but they will definitely know if she gets it anyway! Scientific alright.

[Kickaha]

https://nz.lifestyle.yahoo.com/healt...-beats-cancer/

[Edbear]

I have been looking up a few cases of claims about a variety of cures for cancer that follow a typical theme. The cancer, whichever is the topic, was cured by some alternative means - often a vegetable extract, with corroborating testimony by a doctor saying that after a period of weeks there was nothing left of the Cancer. At times there are several case studies of a number of patients who were cured of different types of cancers by the same therapy.

All the cases I have researched have one thing in common. They are bollox! Some have merit in the substance used that has a possibility of being of some benefit but to date the results of trials have been inconclusive with failure to actually make a difference in real cases.

If you want to get famous, work on Mitochondria. They are the key to reducing and inhibiting cancer cells. They are the human body's natural defence mechanism.

[Laava]

You must be aware of the Anton Kuraia case?