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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    Meanwhile in NZ NZTA are removing giveways & roundabouts to piss money away on traffic lights
    I'm not sure of how much is involved now, but back in the '90s a set of traffic lights cost $80,000.
    That is just for the lights and controller, not including installation or the obvious input of local councils who would have added to the costs quite substantially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    not including installation or the obvious input of local councils who would have added to the costs quite substantially.
    They would spend much more than that having a 2 week holiday in Wanaka to discuss the issue.
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    Might just be a local thing, favouring roundabouts over traffic lights.

    Or you can have both, like favoured in parts of the UK, roundabouts with traffic lights. There's now one such oddity at the bottom of Greville Road...and here's me thinking that if you put lights on the bugger just make it a fourway junction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    I'm not sure of how much is involved now, but back in the '90s a set of traffic lights cost $80,000.
    That is just for the lights and controller, not including installation or the obvious input of local councils who would have added to the costs quite substantially.
    At even $80,000 a shot that's a big expense for the coffers.

    I found this about traffic signals versus roundabouts:https://www.ipenz.org.nz/ipenztg/pap...l%20Duncan.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    Whats a traffic light? We don't have those, but we do have some new traffic islands, which are proving to be costly to replace when the trucks drive over them.
    It's these posts with pretty coloured lights on them which allows drivers to stop thinking & do more "important" things like makeup, reading papers & drinking coffee, eating breakfast etc... They're quite prevalent here in the Norf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    It's these posts with pretty coloured lights on them which allows drivers to stop thinking & do more "important" things like makeup, reading papers & drinking coffee, eating breakfast etc... They're quite prevalent here in the Norf
    That "stop thinking" is the problem alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    It's these posts with pretty coloured lights on them which allows drivers to stop thinking & do more "important" things like makeup, reading papers & drinking coffee, eating breakfast etc... They're quite prevalent here in the Norf
    We only have those at the drags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    We only have those at the drags.
    Pretty things?

    I'd heard that about Gore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Pretty things?

    I'd heard that about Gore.
    Wrong kind of drags, I would guess those type would not dare walk around in public. People seem to hear all sorts of things about gore, most of it true.
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    Rounabouts seems to work okay when they are single lanes. They are a bit so-so once they become dual laned, and nasty at three lanes.

    There's a place for both. Its about choosing the right solution for the problem, and not about choosing one solution for every problem.

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    I'm all for creating seperate, dedicated cycle lanes, but that idea from NZTA can get go and get fucked outside of an already low speed, pedestrianised urban area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    And they're at it again...
    This kinda shit has got to be stopped before someone gets killed. I'm tired of seeing unannounced variations to our standard road markings 'trialled' on major state highways and other significant roads.
    Whats the point of having a licensing regime and standardised training in the road environment is going to be changed every five mins. People have enough problems coping with the status quo let alone these feel good socil nonsense changes.
    And all that just for the Saturday morning latte crowd on their boy racer pushbikes. Who ever thought this nonsense would work here should be sacked. Never mind the NZ car drivers relying to decide whose going to back off and pull left, I bet half the cyclists wouldn't back off their pace and it would be a lottery as to which one inevitably slams into the back of the car that has stopped to give way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    This kinda shit has got to be stopped before someone gets killed. I'm tired of seeing unannounced variations to our standard road markings 'trialled' on major state highways and other significant roads.
    They're announced. You just need to pay and then find the notice that you don't know you're looking for in the paper.

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