This cunt got what he deserved!

[Katman]

I've started a list, I am up to the letter K and it's proving time consuming.

L comes next.

[BuzzardNZ]

I've started a list, I am up to the letter K and it's proving time consuming.

So you got through the B's fairly quickly then?

[bogan]

So you got through the B's fairly quickly then?

They got me baffled, bamboozled, and bemused.

[Mo NZ]

Fuck me .. crazy steals a gun from a shop, points it at cops, points it at himself .. fires into the air ...

Cop takes him down ...

What the fuck is your problem ??? Cop did a GREAT job .. bad guy only does two days in hospital ... if they'd shot him (which would have been an acceptable option) dopey dude would be dead ...

Better to take him out with a car than to have him shoot someone ...

Yup.
Best outcome all round for all concerned.

But I must comment on when he pointed the weapon at the police.
I think, possibly he was not shot because they had only pistols at hand and was " out of range" ,
a bushmaster or similar would have had a very different result.

[Big Dog]

I'm sure the likes of Scumdog literally salivate over the idea of being allowed to shoot every mentally ill person they come across.

Trouble is, that does not make for a civilised society.

Nah, here in NZ they prefer to play laser tag and invoice you for playing the game...

[Big Dog]

From this perspective then, how do we determine at what point the other means criteria has been satisfied?

Since it is the only metric Katman uses, it has no relation to immediate threat to people/property or any other factor.

The point that I am labelling here is that sometimes a situation develops in such a way that the police do not have an option to try other means first and so the answer given is both simplistic and unrealistic.

I will grant that trying other means should always be preferred whilst acknowledging that there are times where the situation is such that they cannot be tried first.

If we for the sake of argument adopt this position - then the question becomes what factors do we use to determine if other means can and should be tried first.

Given from the video we see:

An armed offender, Acting erratically, ignoring police, in the vicinity of the general public, showing complete disregard for all firearm safety rules.

I put forward that the above is grounds enough to forgo other means.

In the light of this thread, you signature is hilarious.

[Big Dog]

What is wrong with you people?

They cancelled state provided mental health... so we are all here.

[Crasherfromwayback]

They got me baffled, bamboozled, and bemused.

Least you weren't buggered as well.

[Katman]

Least you weren't buggered as well.

He might be bummed out about that.

[bogan]

He might be bummed out about that.

Yeh, it could have been a bit of a bone-arse...

[FJRider]

He might be bummed out about that.

quit with the honda jokes ....

[Madness]

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[PrincessBandit]

....Shooting to wound is for the movies, most people who carry firearms as part of their job will not have the skill set to do that in the heat of the moment and probably not on the target range either.
The problem with the recent killing in the US was that the officer claimed he fired because his life was at risk and the video evidence shows that clearly was not the case.

Oh, ok I didn't realise shoot to wound was a Hollywood thing. And the real problem is that this is not an isolated incident, regardless of the circumstances it's yet another in a long string of police-killing-people in the US.

Once you are at the point of using Deadly force, its just that - Deadly

They reach that point so frequently don't they.

There's trees out there making oxygen for every one of us ...

Some of us need to find our tree and apologize to it ...

Hohohoho, must spread more love before sending more your way.

[Big Dog]

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I agree with the female officer in this clip... cop car or not how is she to know it is not stolen if it is traveling at that speed without authorisation, flashing lights etc.

[Katman]

I agree with the female officer in this clip... cop car or not how is she to know it is not stolen if it is traveling at that speed without authorisation, flashing lights etc.

She probably should have rammed his car though.