Harley riding fuckwits being their usual selves

[Katman]

But who are we to question the mighty Katman?

Well at least you've learned something in the 3 weeks you've been a member here.

[Gadget1]

Well at least you've learned something in the 3 weeks you've been a member here.

Lol, your "mightyness" extends far back from what threads I've seen in my "lowly" 3 weeks membership.

I suppose I should be grateful you even respond to my posts.

[pritch]

Actually, a number of biker gangs were started by armed forces veterans.

That is possibly true for the period following WW2, but those guys have to be in their nineties now and more likely to be piloting a Zimmer fame than a Harley.

I know for certain that there are Vietnam veterans who still ride bikes - but most of them are in their seventies now. Getting a bit long in the tooth to be living the 1%er lifestyle.
"Sons of Arthritis"?

The Epitaph Riders are a complete mystery to me and I'm relaxed about that. I do, however, remain dubious that ex-service people swell the ranks of 1% groups to any significant extent.

[Big Dog]

Gangs have drifted a long way over the intervening years.
Assuming mass media is to be believed most modern gangs no longer regard service as a prerequisite or even points toward entry.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[mada]

Actually, a number of biker gangs were started by armed forces veterans.

This. The majority of the clubs formed in the 70's would have had someone who served and many in NZ had founding members who were Vietnam vets. Back in those days Vietnam vets did not receive the respect or recognition they deserved by the government and society blaming the war and what happened on the vets rather than the politicians. Many RSA's did not recognise their "veteran" status and did not think of it as deserving enough for membership. So it's a no brainer as to why many were attracted to comradery and brotherhood in clubs. It was only in the last decade did they finally get the apologies they deserved - from Helen Clark, RSA, Defence Force etc.

I very much doubt any veterans at the event would have been so upset by the bikers unintentional fuck up. At least they weren't there taking a million fucking selfies etc. like many modern day ANZAC "fans"

[pritch]

Back in those days Vietnam vets did not receive the respect or recognition they deserved by the government and society blaming the war and what happened on the vets rather than the politicians. Many RSA's did not recognise their "veteran" status and did not think of it as deserving enough for membership.

Undoubtedly there were some instances such as you describe but they were not *that* common. Just recently I saw someone saying that because of the way he was treated he would never set foot in an RSA. For every one of those people though there are hundreds of the others.

Never mind, if you guys keep this up you might create another urban myth.

[Gadget1]

That is possibly true for the period following WW2, but those guys have to be in their nineties now and more likely to be piloting a Zimmer fame than a Harley.

I know for certain that there are Vietnam veterans who still ride bikes - but most of them are in their seventies now. Getting a bit long in the tooth to be living the 1%er lifestyle.
"Sons of Arthritis"?

The Epitaph Riders are a complete mystery to me and I'm relaxed about that. I do, however, remain dubious that ex-service people swell the ranks of 1% groups to any significant extent.

Yeah, they're probably long in the tooth alright but at least two US biker gangs/clubs, the Bandidos (1966) and Mongols (1969) were started by Vietnam veterans.

Heh, "Sons of Arthritis". I don't know about actual ex-service membership numbers and don't particularly subscribe to their philosophy but the history is interesting to me and I know sociologist Dr Jarrod Gilbert wrote a book about NZ biker gangs.

[Flip]

I am also surprised with the self righteous, self-important and fatuous attitude of the jap bike riding peasants on this web page. I am ashamed to be associated with many of you!

There was a small but visible presence at our ANZAC parade from the Patriots MCC this year and I for one was pleased to see them there.

Regarding the media viral video it just looked like a few MCC members rode past when the last stand was being sounded. So WTF what! If the people there had the guts to ask them to quieten it down then it would have been different. The riders have every legal right to be there and to hell with anybody who thinks otherwise.

Many of my family went to war to stop people like you, they did a good job but I see that a few got away.

[mada]

Undoubtedly there were some instances such as you describe but they were not *that* common. Just recently I saw someone saying that because of the way he was treated he would never set foot in an RSA. For every one of those people though there are hundreds of the others.

Never mind, if you guys keep this up you might create another urban myth.

Yeh you're right. The number was very little relative to the number of servicemen who went to Vietnam.

[PrincessBandit]

I thought the link from CFWB was a very good article. To be honest I have been starting to get tired of the continual force feeding of all things ANZAC or war-ie coming out of the TV lately. Almost as 'commercial' as Christmas and the Easter Bunny!
How can I not feel appreciation and gratitude when I think of the sacrifice so many have made to keep my right to democracy and freedom alive. Attending the commemorative service on Saturday was something I was glad I could do; hearing the speeches of the young who were honest in their opening lines regarding having no idea what ANZAC day was about until they researched it was refreshing. To then hear them describe what they had learnt gave me hope that perhaps the lessons of history might not fade into oblivion. The sad reality is though that while there is greed in the world (for power, money, control etc.) war will always be with us. History might be doomed to repeat itself over and over but lessons can still be learnt and those who laid down their lives can still be remembered with dignity.

Let's hope that the saturation point doesn't end up back firing.

[willytheekid]

I am also surprised with the self righteous, self-important and fatuous attitude of the jap bike riding peasants on this web page. I am ashamed to be associated with many of you!...

So you act like & post shit just like them?? (labeling and judging others by what they ride & smeering the majority due to the actions of the few)

...I honestly didn't know you had developed recent mental issue's mate ...so sorry for your condition...but your fellow KBers are here to help




...SOooo unlike you Sir (you usualy post well thought out gold...not shit!, this thread alone is clear proof that we already have excessive amounts of shit on here )

[husaberg]

I thought the link from CFWB was a very good article. To be honest I have been starting to get tired of the continual force feeding of all things ANZAC or war-ie coming out of the TV lately. Almost as 'commercial' as Christmas and the Easter Bunny!
How can I not feel appreciation and gratitude when I think of the sacrifice so many have made to keep my right to democracy and freedom alive. Attending the commemorative service on Saturday was something I was glad I could do; hearing the speeches of the young who were honest in their opening lines regarding having no idea what ANZAC day was about until they research it was refreshing. To then hear them describe what they had learnt gave me hope that perhaps the lessons of history might not fade into oblivion. The sad reality is though that while there is greed in the world (for power, money, control etc.) was will always be with us. History might be doomed to repeat itself over and over but lessons can still be learnt and those who laid down their lives can still be remembered with dignity.

Let's hope that the saturation point doesn't end up back firing.

A mix of four different Poems from three different eras a few quotes and twisted a little or a bit with a few of my own musings.

Long after the turmoil and the shouting died
Still stands monuments to their sacrifice
A humble and a contrite heart.
The memory of those that have fought
In a needless waste of countless lives
Lest we forget

Take these fallen men for your example.
The Politicians and the Kings do soon depart.
If they become drunk with sight of power, we will loose again.
Consider freedom, is the possession of those who have the courage to defend.
Such words as glory and conquest, is the boastings the gentiles use
Lest we forget

Honour all those that fought for all of us.
It matter not, whether is was right or wrong
Remember they fought out of duty, what they thought was right.
Because those in power could not get along.
If we forget their sacrifice, it was all in vain
In the future try to make only original mistakes
Instead of repeating the same.
Lest we forget

Those fallen will not grow old, as we that are left, grow old
So remember them, Consider that prosperity is only for the free
They will not see the going down of the sun.
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow
The poppies grow when the people see
Thus we must never forget those you fought for us.
As history is a race between education and catastrophe.
Lest we forget

[unstuck]

"Sons of Arthritis"?

Born a rebel, die a rebel.

[Banditbandit]

Yeah, they're probably long in the tooth alright but at least two US biker gangs/clubs, the Bandidos (1966) and Mongols (1969) were started by Vietnam veterans.

Heh, "Sons of Arthritis".

began, and remains, a joke ...

[Gadget1]

began, and remains, a joke ...

I've seen the website. Hilarious.