MNZ proposed rule changes

**Voltaire** · 28th April 2015, 08:01

This might have been covered but only 2 days to get submissions in if you disagree.

Its called Chapter 25- Road Racing- Post Classic

link: http://www.mnz.co.nz/regulations/rul...d-rule-changes

25.2.8- Requirement to fit Belly Pans under the engine/gearbox.

25.2.9- Guards to be fitted between any part of bike containing oil/water that may come in contact with track.

25.5.8- No replacement components can be more than 5 years newer than the part it replaces, this is to be determined off the

chassis of engine number.

Email to voice you opinion is admin@mnz.co.nz

I'm guessing that if there is not much of a response that these will be in place next year.

**Mental Trousers** · 28th April 2015, 10:46

Closing date is Thursday 30th April 2015 for those that see this a month too late.

**Autech** · 28th April 2015, 12:21

Originally Posted by Voltaire

This might have been covered but only 2 days to get submissions in if you disagree.

Its called Chapter 25- Road Racing- Post Classic

link: http://www.mnz.co.nz/regulations/rul...d-rule-changes

25.2.8- Requirement to fit Belly Pans under the engine/gearbox.

25.2.9- Guards to be fitted between any part of bike containing oil/water that may come in contact with track.

25.5.8- No replacement components can be more than 5 years newer than the part it replaces, this is to be determined off the

chassis of engine number.

Email to voice you opinion is admin@mnz.co.nz

I'm guessing that if there is not much of a response that these will be in place next year.

Whats the general consensus on this from the old hands? I'm only new to post classic so I'm not sure if such measures are necessary or not.

**ellipsis** · 28th April 2015, 12:26

...a general consensus from anyone in this game is pretty hard to come up with, so the general consensus would be that there is no general consensus...and if there were a general consensus it is generally disregarded by those who don't really give a fuck about the 'general consensus'...

**nodrog:Me** · 28th April 2015, 12:29

Where do I find the date stamp on my parts?

**ellipsis** · 28th April 2015, 12:33

Originally Posted by nodrog

Where do I find the date stamp on my parts?

...don't you worry your self to death about that...there are eggsperts at every race meeting who can smell the age of a part when it's still not even arrived at the track...

**Voltaire** · 28th April 2015, 12:34

Originally Posted by ellipsis

...a general consensus from anyone in this game is pretty hard to come up with, so the general consensus would be that there is no general consensus...and if there were a general consensus it is generally disregarded by those who don't really give a fuck about the 'general consensus'...

CMCCRR President asked everybody to make their views known to MNZ.... can't recall any comments being made.
I'm gonna need a long oven tray to fit under the BMW

As for the barrier between oil and track, BMW seem to have that sorted....

**swarfie** · 28th April 2015, 13:12

Originally Posted by Mental Trousers

Closing date is Friday 30th April 2015 for those that see this a month too late.

And...ummm...according to the calendar on my phone April 30th is a Thursday...so MNZ can't even get that right

**Grumph** · 28th April 2015, 13:24

Originally Posted by ellipsis

...a general consensus from anyone in this game is pretty hard to come up with, so the general consensus would be that there is no general consensus...and if there were a general consensus it is generally disregarded by those who don't really give a fuck about the 'general consensus'...

correct as usual...

The major components definition worries me slightly. Legal 17inch rims are of course way outside the 5 year rule. Most discs would be too. Shocks, hell yes.
not sure who's going to define this sort of thing. i realise it's going in primarily to stop pre 89 guys using current bandit motors...which i do not disagree with at all. The oil catching undertrays were probably going to come in sooner or later even though I've not seen many instances where it would have helped.
And i'd point out the cars don't have to have them....

Edit - and i see that yet again we have to fit a radiused edge to screens. make up your bloody mind, on, off, on like ellipses race career....

**trustme** · 28th April 2015, 13:36

Snivel sent, seems to me that if the classic register ran under MNZ rules most of the open post classics would be gone. TT 6 speed boxes would be out for OPC but a pre 63 Manx with a new McIntosh frame, Molnar motor & 6 speed box would be good to go. Works for me, not . .

**Mental Trousers** · 28th April 2015, 14:26

Originally Posted by swarfie

And...ummm...according to the calendar on my phone April 30th is a Thursday...so MNZ can't even get that right

Haha, good catch

**Autech** · 28th April 2015, 16:07

Originally Posted by ellipsis

...a general consensus from anyone in this game is pretty hard to come up with, so the general consensus would be that there is no general consensus...and if there were a general consensus it is generally disregarded by those who don't really give a fuck about the 'general consensus'...

I dub these people the consenseless!

So I will need to fit some sort of oil thingy in-between my sump and fairing? Or will the fairing belly pan suffice?

As for a crash protection for the covers, been needing to put that shiz on anyway, costs less when you bin it on oil left by cars...

I'm building an '89 NC30 in my garage over the winter, I'm thinking all the parts for the NC30 will be fine as the bike wasn't made past '93, or am I reading that all wrong.
As I see it such rules would only matter if I ever get fast enough to be closely scrutineered and then only at National level... I think...

**Grumph** · 28th April 2015, 16:25

Originally Posted by trustme

Snivel sent, seems to me that if the classic register ran under MNZ rules most of the open post classics would be gone. TT 6 speed boxes would be out for OPC but a pre 63 Manx with a new McIntosh frame, Molnar motor & 6 speed box would be good to go. Works for me, not . .

Don't know or care about the register's interpretations but Schafleitener (spelling?) marketed a 6 speed conversion in AMC/Manx shell pre 63. It's never been illegal to use OLDER components....or replicas thereof. I do note however that the no more than 5 years younger rule is only for the PC's, not pre 63....That deserves a serious belly laugh. If someone starts making replica GSX1100 motors, I suppose we could always appeal the rule.

edit On thinking about it as it relates to pre 82, I'm going to have to study how it relates to Guzzi and BMW motors - and learn the differences in years...