Tickets=7.3 million; Lives saved=None

[Reckless]

I'm Surprised there's not a thread on this it hit the news couple days ago.

Its the old adage get everyone to contribute a little and you get a lot??

Mike Hosking Rant http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/m...r-road-safety/

Basically down to speed camera's I reckon 250,000 tickets issued (there must be another 250,000 that had two cars in or some other reason, I guess?) wow thats huge.
What do they say if the laws an ass ...................

TV1 http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/lowe...-fines-6303942

Police fined holidaymakers millions in traffic fines this summer thanks to the reduced speed tolerance.
Nearly 250,000 drivers were stung over December and January for driving at speeds up to the usual tolerance of 10kmh over the limit.
However, the tolerance had been reduced from ten to four kilometres per hour over the limit.
The nearly 250,000 tickets amounted to more than $7.3m in fines - an increase of about 4650% on the summer of 2009, before police began using the lower tolerance during holiday periods.
During December 2009 and January 2010, police issued only 5200 tickets and collected $157,000 in fines.

4630% increase in revenue, 245,000 more tickets issued

What say you?

[Scuba_Steve]

Welcome to the age of $$$afety, safety be fucked.

[Erelyes]

There is no doubt that hitting something harder does more damage.

There is a lot of doubt as to whether draconian enforcement (and indeed having low limits), actually stop people from hitting things harder than they would otherwise.

http://jalopnik.com/this-is-the-best...you-1302382244

[Reckless]

There is no doubt that hitting something harder does more damage.

There is a lot of doubt as to whether draconian enforcement (and indeed having low limits), actually stop people from hitting things harder than they would otherwise.

http://jalopnik.com/this-is-the-best...you-1302382244

Interesting Vid I've seen it before but a re watch was good.
Quote, "everybody is speeding, everybody" on that stretch of road.

I think this theory applies to the so called 90k speed zone they patrol like crazy from Bombay to the Tauranga turn off.
Last time I went across it "everybody was speeding, everybody". IMHO if the road toll has gone down on that road, its because everybody is paying now attention.

[Oakie]

You can't say "Lives Saved = None" though as you just don't know if it did prevent an accident that saved a life. It's the same old health and safety dilemma ... you just can't show what didn't happen because you prevented the accident from happening ... and you don't even know you did!

[Reckless]

You can't say "Lives Saved = None" though as you just don't know if it did prevent an accident that saved a life. It's the same old health and safety dilemma ... you just can't show what didn't happen because you prevented the accident from happening ... and you don't even know you did!

I was quoting Hoskings rant which was based on the road Toll statistics he presented.
Christmas road toll this year 17, 6 years ago 13. So given his analogy the effect of the speed campaign is less than "none"
But read into it what you will

[Gadget1]

Here's a US report done a while ago but still relevant:http://www.ibiblio.org/rdu/sl-irrel.html

In a nutshell, it states the majority of highway agencies set speed limits below average traffic speeds. This means 1/2 of motorists are in technical violation of speed limit laws.

Ka ching!

[Oakie]

I was quoting Hoskings rant which was based on the road Toll statistics he presented.
Christmas road toll this year 17, 6 years ago 13. So given his analogy the effect of the speed campaign is less than "none"
But read into it what you will

Yeah I saw his rant. I prefer journos to report the news, not their own opnions but I guess, 'journalism' is a fairly loose term for that style of program.

[Robbo]

Given those figures there is only one word for it. "Revenue" If they were serious about road safety there are many other areas they should be concentrating on and I think we all know what those are.

[scumdog]

4630% increase in revenue, 245,000 more tickets issued

What say you?

I say the number of dumb-asses that can't drive and watch their speed at the same time has increased by an alarming 4630%!

[Reckless]

I say the number of dumb-asses that can't drive and watch their speed at the same time has increased by an alarming 4630%!

You would say that you made them 7.3 million last year

[Big Dog]

I was quoting Hoskings rant which was based on the road Toll statistics he presented.
Christmas road toll this year 17, 6 years ago 13. So given his analogy the effect of the speed campaign is less than "none"
But read into it what you will

Yeah, but the fact Hoskings said it means it's probably wrong.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Akzle]

You can't say "Lives Saved = None" though as you just don't know if it did prevent an accident that saved a life. It's the same old health and safety dilemma ... you just can't show what didn't happen because you prevented the accident from happening ... and you don't even know you did!

you're a woman, aren't you?

that's not logic.

lives saved=none. fucking ever. by policy enforcement.

[Doppleganger]

Just proves the traffic police are there to gather revenue.
Also be intersting to know how many road deaths actually involved the police......

[p.dath]

I'm not so interested in the number of extra tickets but the difference it made to the road toll - and I understand that the extra 250,000 tickets had almost no impact on the road toll. So wrong solution for the problem then.