Tickets=7.3 million; Lives saved=None

[gjm]

The traffic police perform a function. They are visible, and while they do stop people for speeding, they also stop people for driving too close, recklessly, dangerously, and more. If you really want to upset a traffic cop, be really, really nice to him or her when they stop you. They are people, and giving a fine and demerits to a nice person isn't fun. And who knows - you may even get a warning instead of a penalty.

Speed camera vans exist only to raise money. There is no safety or prevention aspect to their use - does taking your picture at 104km/h and sending you a bill constitute an increase in safety, a reduction in road traffic accidents, a reduction in the death toll caused by drivers? Of course not. It might mean you pay more attention to your speed (and less to the road) next time you're driving, but that's all, and even that is going to happen at least a couple of weeks after the event.

[Big Dog]

I tend to agree gjm. My recent ticket has not changed my riding a jot beyond I now pay more attention to my speed than my safety where I got caught.
9/10 days that means it will make no difference.
The day I got my ticket was one of the 1/10 days I decided to put some distance between me and the trucks behind me that were jostling for position.
They were doing about 95-105 taking up both lanes fore and aft. So I when I saw a gap I took it. When they started tailgating I put some padding in.

Even at $80 of do it again on a heart beat. And I have. The Bombay's are a bloody dangerous place for a bike at 8:00am.
Even at $1000 I'll do it again. Because no ticket is a greater cost than my life.

I wouldn't have it that there were no cops there though. They need to be there and they need to be seen stopping people or the boundaries around what is acceptable speed get further blurred.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[idb]

At least that means there's an extra $7.3 million to go towards road safety.

[p.dath]

At least that means there's an extra $7.3 million to go towards road safety.

Alas no. Ticketing goes into the general taxation fund. So health and social welfare will consume the big chunks of it.

[Scuba_Steve]

they also stop people for driving too close, recklessly, dangerously, and more.

At least that means there's an extra $7.3 million to go towards road safety.

[idb]

Alas no. Ticketing goes into the general taxation fund. So health and social welfare will consume the big chunks of it.

Wait...what...?!
Noooo!!!!

[Reckless]

At least that means there's an extra $7.3 million to go towards road safety.

LOL "TUI" They cant even spend the 10 million they have in the MSAC Safety fund, collected in Rego on Safety, and thats "our money".

Its a joke every which way you look

[Swoop]

Speed camera vans exist only to raise money.

Recently I doubted this fact.
On the NW motorway, Te Atatu river overbridge, there was a regular taxation specialist parked up there. Disguised as a workman's vehicle, etc, etc.
For some strange reason he was there each morning, same position, while the morning snail-trail of tin-tops crawled past at 3kmh.
He would have caught 0 speeders, but presumably the retards' on high were ordering him to use his braincell and "keep at it!".

LOL "TUI" They cant even spend the 10 million they have in the MSAC Safety fund, collected in Rego on Safety, and thats "our money".

All they need to do is provide some fuel vouchers (say $100- per rego'ed bike) so riders can go and practice being "safe".

Ding! "next problem!".

[Gadget1]

LOL "TUI" They cant even spend the 10 million they have in the MSAC Safety fund, collected in Rego on Safety, and thats "our money".

Its a joke every which way you look

Yep, they'd probably be better off just putting that money towards the ACC Ride Forever courses.

[caspernz]

Not against police enforcing road rules, but I often refer to an old standby: "If that's the solution...what the heck was the question?" when faced with odd stuff such as the 4 click tolerance.

[Big Dog]

Not against police enforcing road rules, but I often refer to an old standby: "If that's the solution...what the heck was the question?" when faced with odd stuff such as the 4 click tolerance.

"How can we get 4 million posts on the internet in 30 days advertising our message of speed kills without actually paying an advertising agency?"

[R650R]

You lost me as soon as you said Mike Hoskin.... just another purveyor of populist soundbites....

[FJRider]

You can't say "Lives Saved = None" though as you just don't know if it did prevent an accident that saved a life. It's the same old health and safety dilemma ... you just can't show what didn't happen because you prevented the accident from happening ... and you don't even know you did!

Perhaps ... if nobody broke any speed limits ... no fines would be issued.


The Government would THEN have to source the finance .... to fund the current welfare system (and pledges to the Nepal emergengy of one million $$$) ... somewhere else ....


Any ideas where that source might be ... ???

[cynna]

You can't say "Lives Saved = None" though as you just don't know if it did prevent an accident that saved a life. It's the same old health and safety dilemma ... you just can't show what didn't happen because you prevented the accident from happening ... and you don't even know you did!

true lets just say the 250000 tickets saved 250000 lifes. we all know if you go 5km over the limit you will die

[gjm]