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[Ocean1]

A visit to a few real estate auctions in Auckland will answer the immigration and housing aspects I'm referring to. For starters, why should someone who doesn't even live here, be allowed to buy a multitude of homes?

And to my way of thinking, the talk of changing the flag should go hand in hand with becoming a republic.

Because they can afford to? Although I'm sure most of those selling real estate in orks would let a struggling local have it for half price if asked nicely...

Why? A new republic probably does want a new flag, that doesn't mean we have to become a republic to make a new flag.

[Ocean1]

Define "preferred"...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...o-live-in.html

...fact is theres suburbs of citizens that simply washed up there and it seems are quite happy to stay despite the fact they supposedly cant find work,to easy to stay or to lazy to move etc either way many of em wouldnt give a fuck about the national flag present or future just as they dont give a fuck about the country bar what it can give them in handouts.That said shouldnt whinge i guess at least if there up there there not here which is about all you can hope for these days.

Oh I could probably be talked around to the idea that dole bludgers shouldn't expect taxpayers to pay for them to live in the most expensive city in the country, for sure... Especially if there's more work on offer in Eketahuna.

[Ocean1]

...when we can't buy real estate in their home country.

That is a good point. But then most Chinese can't buy property in China either. And I've been there, it's no real loss.

[caspernz]

That is a good point. But then most Chinese can't buy property in China either. And I've been there, it's no real loss.

Level playing field is all I'd like to see. That's gotta be a government function surely? Not a Winston Peters fan as such, but he's been banging this drum for a while one way or another.

[98tls]

Level playing field is all I'd like to see. That's gotta be a government function surely? Not a Winston Peters fan as such, but he's been banging this drum for a while one way or another.

Cant see any problem with the chinese myself (ok but that aside) at least in general they show up cashed up etc..ok they end up buying but surely thats a whole lot better than the ever growing numbers that arrive and do fuck all but produce more to do the same,only upside to them is that many are employed to run about pandering to there every need.

[scumdog]

Level playing field is all I'd like to see. That's gotta be a government function surely? Not a Winston Peters fan as such, but he's been banging this drum for a while one way or another.

But if there's dolleros to be made? - well fuck the common sense, logic and ethics...

[Ocean1]

Level playing field is all I'd like to see. That's gotta be a government function surely? Not a Winston Peters fan as such, but he's been banging this drum for a while one way or another.

You've got a level playing field. The seller agrees to sell his house to the highest bidder, and the highest bidder agrees it's worth what he's paying. Nobody else needs any say in that process.

Now, if you wanted cheap housing then you might look at getting city hall's finger out of the development pie, CHH and Fletcher's fingers out of the materials monopoly pie and local and central govt's finger out of the standards and safety compliance pie. Then you could build houses half the size of the current ones and sell them for something like what your grandfater paid.

Until then, especially in Orks, you're fucked.

[98tls]

You've got a level playing field. The seller agrees to sell his house to the highest bidder, and the highest bidder agrees it's worth what he's paying. Nobody else needs any say in that process.

Now, if you wanted cheap housing then you might look at getting city hall's finger out of the development pie, CHH and Fletcher's fingers out of the materials monopoly pie and local and central govt's finger out of the standards and safety compliance pie. Then you could build houses half the size of the current ones and sell them for something like what your grandfater paid.

Until then, especially in Orks, you're fucked.

Amen on the Fletchers thing...that is truly fucked up.

[caspernz]

But if there's dolleros to be made? - well fuck the common sense, logic and ethics...

You've got a level playing field. The seller agrees to sell his house to the highest bidder, and the highest bidder agrees it's worth what he's paying. Nobody else needs any say in that process.

Now, if you wanted cheap housing then you might look at getting city hall's finger out of the development pie, CHH and Fletcher's fingers out of the materials monopoly pie and local and central govt's finger out of the standards and safety compliance pie. Then you could build houses half the size of the current ones and sell them for something like what your grandfater paid.

Until then, especially in Orks, you're fucked.

May as well sign up to learn Mandarin then...

[Voltaire]

May as well sign up to learn Mandarin then...

Its probably inevitable that with 2 billion the Chinese and to a lesser extent Indians are going to move to other places.

Much in the same way the Spanish and British did in the 16th-19th century.

I suppose now that China is one of our major trading partners the Govt is reluctant to make an issues out of it.

Kevin Rudd can speak Mandarin, he might make a comeback as Aussie PM

[98tls]

May as well sign up to learn Mandarin then...

Why not...fair chance you would get more use of doing so than the mandatory French class i had to put up with at primary school.

[caspernz]

Why not...fair chance you would get more use of doing so than the mandatory French class i had to put up with at primary school.

I was being pragmatic I'll be honest. Sheer numbers suggest Mandarin is a sound choice to learn. I mean, back home I learned English, German, French...

[mashman]

But if there's dolleros to be made? - well fuck the common sense, logic and ethics...

As Akzle would put it, paraphrasing, that's the economoney for ya.

[scumdog]

I was being pragmatic I'll be honest. Sheer numbers suggest Mandarin is a sound choice to learn. I mean, back home I learned English, German, French...

My son speaks/reads/writes it fairly well and has lived in China for the last few years.

He's homewards bound and surprise-surprise, he's got a lot of opportunities for work in NZ.

[Voltaire]

You've got a level playing field. The seller agrees to sell his house to the highest bidder, and the highest bidder agrees it's worth what he's paying. Nobody else needs any say in that process.

Now, if you wanted cheap housing then you might look at getting city hall's finger out of the development pie, CHH and Fletcher's fingers out of the materials monopoly pie and local and central govt's finger out of the standards and safety compliance pie. Then you could build houses half the size of the current ones and sell them for something like what your grandfater paid.

Until then, especially in Orks, you're fucked.

You've got a level playing field. The manufacturer decided to get his products made overseas to the lowest price and the public agrees its worth less than the local price he is paying.Nobody else needs any say in that process.

Now if you want to keep jobs locally you might look at getting the Government to pull finger out, and encourage investment in industry instead of all the milk in one basket.

Until then, especially in the Provinces, you're fucked.