Yes - I can too ... but they will spend the money on the referendum and the flag no matter what - so you might as well GET OUT AND VOTE !!!Originally Posted by FROSTY
Anarchic Wild Child
Yes - I can too ... but they will spend the money on the referendum and the flag no matter what - so you might as well GET OUT AND VOTE !!!
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
one placenta
...I had a three hour wait/wander around our city while waiting for a new exhaust being fitted...everywhere I looked it seemed there was a corporate or business logo that incorporated that stylised fern...to me it is now a bland and beaten up symbol, much like high vis in our broken town...
Bogeyman
And then, has there ever been a cent of taxpayer money spent that everyone was happy about?
Only, you don't have to look very far to see that published negative reaction to any spend is usually unrelated to overall opinion. Fuck, negative reaction to ANYTHING is overrepresented EVERYWHERE, just trawl back through this thread and compare comments to poll data.
Which begs the question: what sort of job would we, the taxpayers do if we could vote on every aspect of national budget? Not a very fucking good one I suspect...
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Anarchic Wild Child
I prefer to see it showing just how pervasive and essentially New Zealand the silver fern is - all the more reason to put it on our flag.
We would never do or achieve anything ... I suspect because the majority vote would always be for the status quo ... or never able to reach a conclusion on what the question should be - let alone what the answer should be ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Bogeyman
Isn't it at least as accurate to say it's popularity is representative of people's acceptance of it as a national symbol?
And I wonder how those suggesting a fern is some sort of "corporate logo" would get on were it possible to suggest that to any one of the thousands of Kiwis buried under it overseas. Be a bloody nose or two I suspect.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Forum whore
WTF is a new flag going to do for our country anyway FFS. It is just PC Bollocks again. Fuck, even Fontera has become as bad as our government these days with miss management
Forum whore
The Aussies will refer to that 'white feather' every time they beat us at sports
" Rule books are for the Guidance of the Wise, and the Obedience of Fools"
Bogeyman
Why do we care?The Aussies will refer to that 'white feather' every time they beat us at sports
Besides, there's no reason today why it shouldn't be silver.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Forum whore
I only care about the flag inasmuch as I don't want it to be the one with the black elephant being kicked by the white, curly-toed boot.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Forum whore
An article from over 18 months ago.
http://www.listener.co.nz/commentary...al-just-do-it/
SH1 rider
What an awesome choice; the Labour and National party logos combined, the kicking elephants (thanks for the discription James ), the AB and All Whites sysmbols combined, or the ABs combined with the National party logo.
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YepNeeds to be driven to get people to engage - I was in that category
. It's no big deal, we simply vote for our personal option in the referendum.... that's the nature of democracy. Five years or less down the track, everyone will wonder what the fuss was all about. In the meantime, life goes on as normal - we go riding and enjoy life. Apart from the glass half empty types, that is
Low personal B.M.E.P.
Silver fern farms will love that - may even have it copyrighted already.
Anorak
Silver fern Farms who were (PPCS until a few years ago )looks like it getting partially sold to the Chinese will they care?
http://www.odt.co.nz/news/business/3...t-china-report
http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/winsto...arms-201508290
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
Anarchic Wild Child
They can't copyright it - the WAI262 (Flora and Fauna) claim to the Waitangi Tribunal means the silver fern belongs to us Maori - but we will let everyone use it ... we are magnanimous like that ...
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