Flag?

[Erelyes]

Fuck this flag shit - like we can afford this kind of folly right now - talk about priorities!

The spending on the flag is fuck all in the context of things. If you are serious about 'spending the money on better things' then we can up the tax rate by 0.04% for a single year (total tax take 61.5bn, referenda cost 26m).

Added to which the majority of the 'spend' is going straight into an SOE anyway (NZ Post), by and large hiring NZ staff, suffering as a result of the decline in people posting stuff.

Shit, compared to the amount of money the govt has given to bail out businesses (1.6bn to South Canterbury Finance).... across 50 years this is nothing.

Or the MPs could simply vote on a bill without bothering to consult the public, to save a few bob.

- meanwhile back at the TPPA public debate? - Oh it's secret!

Yeah, that's not so cool.

And then, has there ever been a cent of taxpayer money spent that everyone was happy about?

Fucking A. How easy it is to criticise, with a thinly veiled overtone of 'I could do better'. Tall poppy alive and well?

WTF is a new flag going to do for our country anyway FFS.

Exactly what people make of it. Pity that some people are determined to have a shit attitude. If we keep our current flag, the gummint's fucking things up. If we change the flag, the gummint's fucking things up. If there's five Mondays in a month, fucking gummint's fault.

[Voltaire]

The knock on effect will be sales of new flags, stamps, sports shirts etc. Then Iwi will jump up and down about using the silver fern and the Southern Cross

[husaberg]

The knock on effect will be sales of new flags, stamps, sports shirts etc. Then Iwi will jump up and down about using the silver fern and the Southern Cross

It will be a new form of the never-ending story of colonial oppression.

[slofox]

I just saw results of a UMR poll on the flag thing.

Relevant quote..."53% had the red, white and blue Silver Fern and the Southern Cross in the top four and 51% the black, white and blue Silver Fern and the Southern Cross."

Of the two, given our rate of assault, battery, wife beating, child beating, cop beating, inmate beating etc etc, I'd say the black white and blue is the better choice of the two...wouldn't you?

[Pixie]

The RSA are telling people to spoil the first ballot by not choosing one of the four.
They are idiots,playing into the hands of the flag change proponents, the correct action is to vote for the worst of the four,the one that will not stand a chance against the current flag.
That choice would be the black and white monkey tail.

[Madness]

The RSA are telling people to spoil the first ballot by not choosing one of the four.
They are idiots,playing into the hands of the flag change proponents, the correct action is to vote for the worst of the four,the one that will not stand a chance against the current flag.
That choice would be the black and white monkey tail.

This. What's the worst that can happen?

[bogan]

The RSA are telling people to spoil the first ballot by not choosing one of the four.
They are idiots,playing into the hands of the flag change proponents, the correct action is to vote for the worst of the four,the one that will not stand a chance against the current flag.
That choice would be the black and white monkey tail.

Why would not choosing spoil it?

Your 'correct' action seems contrary to what they fought for.

[Swoop]

I note that the cat-exterminator's design is now being foisted upon us.
Halfwit Morgan commissioned a designer to come up with "something", and that appears to be misguidedly put forward as "the final solution to the flag question".

Will the madness never end?



Hmmm...

[schrodingers cat]

Riding back to chch today and I see some person(s) have put up 6 flag poles and have full size versions of the proposed 'new' designs as well as our current one.

I'm in the 'why bother' with regards to change but did think the red peak thingy looked better than the rugby themed efforts.
Seeing them for real made me realise how fucking dreadful our 'choices' are

Dear John Key, please try harder. 2/10 or to use the new method of assessment, not yet achieved.

[Tazz]

Riding back to chch today and I see some person(s) have put up 6 flag poles and have full size versions of the proposed 'new' designs as well as our current one.

I'm in the 'why bother' with regards to change but did think the red peak thingy looked better than the rugby themed efforts.
Seeing them for real made me realise how fucking dreadful our 'choices' are

Dear John Key, please try harder. 2/10 or to use the new method of assessment, not yet achieved.

Yeah I saw 6 on three flag poles on the south side of Amberley on the way up yesterday. Recognised the red peak design before the others.
Kinda cool the property owners put them all up like that, I assume to inspire a bit of chat about it. all

[WNJ]

Personally I will be voting for the current flag the others just seem a bit like a sports team logo,

[Akzle]

i'll snap a pic of my homies up o.t,
fly the confederated tribes flag, and underneath, the "new zealand flag".... Upside down.
mana ora.

[Oakie]

Riding back to chch today and I see some person(s) have put up 6 flag poles and have full size versions of the proposed 'new' designs as well as our current one.

Saw that yesterday riding back from lunch at Copper Road. (Just an excuse for a ride really)

Saw my favoured flag and still think it looks good.

[gsxr]

Looks like the decision had already been made before the first referendum
The new flags have already been produced.


People can now contact the Flag Consideration Project and be sent two flags for free, the current flag, and the black, white and blue silver fern, as long as it survives any push from late ballots.

The two flags will be available at no cost to those who have the ability to fly them together in a publicly visible location.

That would ideally mean two separate flag poles that can be seen if a person is standing in one place.

Recipients of the free flags will also be asked to fly the current New Zealand flag that is supplied, so the two flags are of the same quality and dimension.

The flags can be sent out after last night's preliminary result is officially confirmed on Tuesday.

[tri boy]

The new flag will be the Red, White, and Blue one.MHO
And Chinese companies are already using it on NZ produced goods.