Flag?

[ellipsis]

Whether we want a new flag and what it should be.

Sounds like you're debating something else.

...Oh, ok...

[Stylo]

Looks like the winner of the tallest dwarf competition is ..... the black white and blue !

According to Media reports

[Oakie]

Looks like the winner of the tallest dwarf competition is ..... the black white and blue !

Gotta watch out for those dwarfs though. They'll head-butt you in the nuts!

[oldrider]

Just like MMP - the one TPTB (Key?) wanted all along! (Objective? - The removal of the Union Jack - remnant symbol of the once great British Empire!) .

[Blackbird]

Just like MMP - the one TPTB (Key?) wanted all along! (Objective? - The removal of the Union Jack - remnant symbol of the once great British Empire!) .

Fine by me (from a once Pom)

[Voltaire]

Just like MMP - the one TPTB (Key?) wanted all along! (Objective? - The removal of the Union Jack - remnant symbol of the once great British Empire!) .

We should be thankful it was not the Dutch or French who got to design the original flag.

[oldrider]

We should be thankful it was not the Dutch or French who got to design the original flag.

I am not anti British - I prefer to have kept the old flag - following WW2 Churchill's obligation for USA help (debt) was the destruction of the British Empire!

I wonder why Key is so intent on the flag change? - What's in it for him? - What's in it for us? - Waste of money IMHO - (I will accept the new flag if it eventuates!)

[Gremlin]

I only voted for the black/blue one. I have no intention of voting for it next round.

Nothing wrong with the current one, although I do hold a British passport (only been there for 3 weeks in my life though).

[gsxr]

I am not anti British - I prefer to have kept the old flag - following WW2 Churchill's obligation for USA help (debt) was the destruction of the British Empire!

I wonder why Key is so intent on the flag change? - What's in it for him? - What's in it for us? - Waste of money IMHO - (I will accept the new flag if it eventuates!)

The debt wasnt to the USA as such.
The USA is in debt to the Rothchilds Rockerfellers Morgan and to a lesser extent Lazard .
John Key worked for Merrill Lynch who control a large portion of world funds .
He is now just a puppet in their quest for one world government and we are merely pawns in the game

[Voltaire]

I am not anti British - I prefer to have kept the old flag - following WW2 Churchill's obligation for USA help (debt) was the destruction of the British Empire!

I wonder why Key is so intent on the flag change? - What's in it for him? - What's in it for us? - Waste of money IMHO - (I will accept the new flag if it eventuates!)

I doubt if the British Flag means a lot to a lot of English these days, with the Irish having kicked them out after 800 of oppression and the Welsh and Scots wanting independence ....if they can keep all the useful bits.

[Oscar]

I doubt if the British Flag means a lot to a lot of English these days, with the Irish having kicked them out after 800 of oppression and the Welsh and Scots wanting independence ....if they can keep all the useful bits.

I'll think you'll find that the Scots had a fair bit to do with the oppression in Ireland.

[Ocean1]

I'll think you'll find that the Scots had a fair bit to do with the oppression in Ireland.

They started it.

[gjm]

Sorry for resurrecting this, but it still pisses me off.

It took several rounds of vote re-evaluation (proportional representation) to finally get the blue and black flag into first place. It's a crap system, but it was laid down and described before voting started.

So now we have is a situation where just 43% of eligible voters bothered to register and vote. Under half the population have any interest in changing the flag.

Once votes were counted, none of the options got 50% of votes cast. This means no proposed new design got even 21% of eligible voters backing it.

Now we're going to have another vote on whether the current flag should be replaced with some black and blue hankie that (probably) less than 20% of the population want. (Incidentally, independent polls suggested less than 1 in 5 people want to change the current flag before voting commenced.)

Doesn't sound like value for $26M, does it? And anyone who says it isn't much money, whether in the grand scheme of things or not, can give me 1% of what is [I]actually[I] spent in this distracting debacle.

[oldrider]

Sorry for resurrecting this, but it still pisses me off.

It took several rounds of vote re-evaluation (proportional representation) to finally get the blue and black flag into first place. It's a crap system, but it was laid down and described before voting started.

So now we have is a situation where just 43% of eligible voters bothered to register and vote. Under half the population have any interest in changing the flag.

Once votes were counted, none of the options got 50% of votes cast. This means no proposed new design got even 21% of eligible voters backing it.

Now we're going to have another vote on whether the current flag should be replaced with some black and blue hankie that (probably) less than 20% of the population want. (Incidentally, independent polls suggested less than 1 in 5 people want to change the current flag before voting commenced.)

Doesn't sound like value for $26M, does it? And anyone who says it isn't much money, whether in the grand scheme of things or not, can give me 1% of what is [I]actually[I] spent in this distracting debacle.

Yes well you get your (sham) voting on the flag - but will you even get that on the TPPA? - (shsssh it's too secret to mention!)

TPPA is being signed up next month! - In New Zealand! Bet you didn't know that! - Otago Daily Times this morning page 22 0f 23 small insignificant article.

[MarkH]

Yes well you get your (sham) voting on the flag - but will you even get that on the TPPA?

In fact I believe that almost every nation's flag in the world (including our current one) were decided by the government, what other nation has let the people decide on their flag?

TBH I don't understand the complaints over the way the voting worked, a winner had to be decided and even though not enough wanted my first pick for it to be considered they did take into account my 2nd pick and it got chosen to be the one that goes up against the ghastly shitter we currently have for a flag.
In March I'll be voting to change to the new flag, I don't really know how many will also vote for it but I'd be willing to bet gjm $100 that it will be more than 20%.