Flag?

**oldrider** · 25th March 2016, 10:13

Give John Key some credit - he never hid his preference and no matter how he behaves now he will get slagged for it especially as he gambled and lost!

Being of the conspiracy theorist persuasion I can not help believing that he had an ulterior motive (such as distraction from TPPA) when he floated the flag change!

I am more concerned with Key's standing to attention and sucking up to American interests than I am about his little flag fetish!

**Katman** · 25th March 2016, 10:17

Originally Posted by oldrider

Give John Key some credit - he never hid his preference

But that's just it John. To avoid politicising the whole issue, he should have.

**mashman** · 25th March 2016, 10:26

Originally Posted by oldrider

Give John Key some credit - he never hid his preference and no matter how he behaves now he will get slagged for it especially as he gambled and lost!

Being of the conspiracy theorist persuasion I can not help believing that he had an ulterior motive (such as distraction from TPPA) when he floated the flag change!

I am more concerned with Key's standing to attention and sucking up to American interests than I am about his little flag fetish!

Wonder how much we'll get for the rights to the flag that never quite was.

**Oakie** · 25th March 2016, 10:31

Originally Posted by mashman

Wonder how much we'll get for the rights to the flag that never quite was.

Interesting. By it losing the referendum, does that mean Mr Lockwood may now make some money out of it by marketing his design?

**mashman** · 25th March 2016, 10:54

Originally Posted by Oakie

Interesting. By it losing the referendum, does that mean Mr Lockwood may now make some money out of it by marketing his design?

Likely a knighthood

. I would have thought it belonged to NZ. Who owns the flag... dun dun duuuuuuuun

**Wingnut** · 25th March 2016, 11:18

Originally Posted by Katman

But that's just it John. To avoid politicising the whole issue, he should have.

Nail hits head...

**nerrrd** · 25th March 2016, 12:42

Ironically now would be the best time to start a proper process for change, while the interest is still high. And leave the pollies out of it completely, make it a popular movement.

Start it off in schools maybe, and then take it from there. There's plenty of time, and despite what JK and others say, with enough support we can change it whenever we like

.

**carbonhed** · 25th March 2016, 12:46

Originally Posted by Wingnut

Nail hits head...

Yeah. He should have taken a leaf out of Labour and the Greens playbook and stayed aloof from the process..........

**willytheekid** · 25th March 2016, 16:03

FINALLY!!!!...so can we focus on the real issues now this wee flag distraction has passed??

...or will some of you require more time to realize this was actually just a distraction from the get go!

change the flag

...for wot reason again??

**carbonhed** · 25th March 2016, 16:49

Well the Brits are delighted we've chosen to keep their flag on our flag...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...d-country.html

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinio...cle4721122.ece

**Ocean1** · 25th March 2016, 17:19

Originally Posted by carbonhed

Well the Brits are delighted we've chosen to keep their flag on our flag...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...d-country.html

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinio...cle4721122.ece

Aye, whatever they thought they were voting for or against the reality is they voted for a flag absolutely synonymous with English colonialism.

No wonder the English are amused. Condescending pricks.

**carbonhed** · 25th March 2016, 17:25

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Aye, whatever they thought they were voting for or against the reality is they voted for a flag absolutely synonymous with English colonialism.

No wonder the English are amused. Condescending pricks.

Labours policy at the last election was to change the flag...

Key Derangement Syndrome strikes again... and a 6% swing would have won it. Dumb motherfuckers.

**Swoop** · 25th March 2016, 18:36

The big question now for the fishbone, is "will it disappear as quickly as red-peak"?

Since there was no popular public mandate for change in the beginning, this debacle will simply get put "on-the-tab" of the overseas loans we are accumulating.

Originally Posted by Katman

And then to read his little statement "now a flag has been decided, I encourage all New Zealanders to use it, embrace it and more importantly, be proud of it".

What a fucking patronising hypocritical wanker.

Back to front logic once again.
For those who have traveled overseas, we will have noticed lots of flags of the nations that we have visited, flying proudly in the streets.
NZ is the opposite.

NZ needs to fly the national flag proudly (whatever colours/symbols it has on it) from every building.

Australia and the USA do this exceptionally well.