Flag?

**Winston001** · 6th May 2015, 22:46

The Silver Fern looks nice to us Kiwis because we know what it is. But most foreigners see a white feather which is pretty much what it looks like. Not very symbolic.

A stylised Kiwi might work even if nobody else knows what it is.

Think about other countries flags: there are very few which are immediately recognisable. Stars and stripes, maple leaf, hammer and sickle, red sun...dunno about others.

We are living in a global age where the significance of flags is diminished so all in all, I don't think a change is worth while.

**puddytat** · 6th May 2015, 23:22

How about a FOR SALE sign ?

Everybody has a price, its just a question of how much.

**Reckless** · 6th May 2015, 23:24

Originally Posted by puddytat

How about a FOR SALE sign ?

Now that made me chuckle

and soooo true

But I'm still goin for the white feather Winston

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**ellipsis** · 6th May 2015, 23:35

...how about a blank white flag with black tassels...stitched on with red cotton. of course...

**puddytat** · 7th May 2015, 00:02

or a grey blanket festooned with beads & a rifle embroidered on it in the middle...

**Berries** · 7th May 2015, 00:10

Originally Posted by AllanB

Change it - the existing one bores me and does not reflect NZ.

He waits for the Poms to chime in ....... I respond in advance - if the motherland is so great why are you in NZ?

Change it.

Ha ha, my problem with the flag is that it is the same as Australia. Well, one has four stars and one has five, and yet when I look out the window I see hundreds. Meaningless, half the world can see the Crux. No idea why you are blaming the Brits though, surely you fuckers came up with the idea?

If you really want to reflect NZ what are you going to do? A black flag shaped like a wifebeater with a daggy sheeps arse on it or the white feather version?

**FJRider** · 7th May 2015, 00:31

Originally Posted by Berries

... If you really want to reflect NZ what are you going to do? A black flag shaped like a wifebeater with a daggy sheeps arse on it or the white feather version?

As I recall .. submissions are closed.

Did YOU submit one .. ??

**Grumph** · 7th May 2015, 06:51

Originally Posted by FJRider

As I recall .. submissions are closed.

Did YOU submit one .. ??

Are you confusing the real world with KB again ?

Combining some ideas from here then, half stars and stripes, half plain red, large "for sale" in black across the lot....and of course tassels. Tassels in virgin lambswool of course.

**Voltaire** · 7th May 2015, 10:13

Originally Posted by puddytat

How about a FOR SALE sign ?

Everybody has a price, its just a question of how much.

Maybe offer space for large corporations to advertise, like Fonterra.

As for the fern looking like a feather

Could just have sheep on it, most people I met overseas seemed to associated NZ with them.

Dang....its been thought of already.

**oldrider** · 7th May 2015, 11:16

Originally Posted by Reckless

Now that made me chuckle

and soooo true

But I'm still goin for the white feather Winston

Quite like that one - but!

It's not the flag that makes the nation - it's the nation that makes the flag - if we want respect for ours - we have to earn it - is that what's wrong currently?

We had our current flag before Australia had theirs - how come theirs (supposedly) overshadows ours? - is the answer in the national mirror?

If we only change the flag - we might have to do it again every year until we finally get the country sorted? - just saying just saying!

**Banditbandit** · 7th May 2015, 14:01

Originally Posted by oldrider

Quite like that one - but!

It's not the flag that makes the nation - it's the nation that makes the flag - if we want respect for ours - we have to earn it - is that what's wrong currently?

We had our current flag before Australia had theirs - how come theirs (supposedly) overshadows ours? - is the answer in the national mirror?

If we only change the flag - we might have to do it again every year until we finally get the country sorted? - just saying just saying!

I agree .. it made me think: "what do we need a flag for?" Apart from having an ensign on our ships so they are not considered pirates.

But I think that if we can figure out the answer to the question, then we MIGHT be some way to figuring out what our flag should look like ...

**Voltaire** · 7th May 2015, 15:08

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

I agree .. it made me think: "what do we need a flag for?" Apart from having an ensign on our ships so they are not considered pirates.

But I think that if we can figure out the answer to the question, then we MIGHT be some way to figuring out what our flag should look like ...

We would look pretty silly carrying a pole around in the Olympic opening ceremony.

What that bloke in white carrying?