Gene pool

[mashman]

Hang on, I think I know what's going on, are you from overseas?

Are you Yuri Geller?

[mashman]

He's personally responsible for the phrase "whining pom".

I'd be honoured.

[husaberg]

Prove that I'm open minded by reading history? . Really not sure the point you're trying to make, but my judge judy sense is tingling and I always listen to it.

Depending on what he reads, right. I have to say that until very recently I had no question that the holocaust took place. Having read some of the evidence provided, I believe that my position of not questioning the holocaust and relying on what history has stated as what happened is naive. I have no doubt that something took place, but as was mentioned, the blocks were altered post-war and there is no residue of the gas that was supposedly used. Good enough reasons to question the official story. I'm not saying that Jew's weren't slaughtered in some way or another, possibly even using gas chambers... however the chamber of horrors is said to not be bearing the scars of being a gas chamber.

Well how is you were able to form this opinion then?
Like I said show me how open minded you are.
IBM Census
Prussian Blue
Zylcon B production
Confessions made.
Accounts by people who were there that were made to go through the chambers after the camps were liberated. What did these people have to gain?
Plus the fact that the so called smoking gun Blue dye has been discredited for a number of reasons and he was charged with fraud he was also arrested afterwards in the UK.
Also have a look into why he did his robust investigation in the first place.
Go on see what you find when you actually look.
Of course if you have formed a opinion from material that has been shown to be utter bollocks and refused to look into it out of fear of what you might find what would your judge Judy senses tell you to do then.

[Gadget1]

Are you Yuri Geller?

I was just thinking there was a confusion of meaning but if you're going to stupid about then I'm not interested.

[scumdog]

Well that's what happens when there aren't enough well paid jobs. Blame the system bro, it requires criminals

lol, getting worse is change.

Bugger off, most of them are bone-idle lazy with an oversized sense of entitlement, heaps have been 'given' jobs but don't have the brains/skills/personal responsibility to stay in it for long.

I guess the parents can take the biggest amount of blame for that outcome - not the 'system'.

[mashman]

Well how is you were able to form this opinion then?
Like I said show me how open minded you are.
IBM Census
Prussian Blue
Zylcon B production
Confessions made.
Accounts by people who were there that were made to go through the chambers after the camps were liberated. What did these people have to gain?
Plus the fact that the so called smoking gun Blue dye has been discredited for a number of reasons and he was charged with fraud he was also arrested afterwards in the UK.
Also have a look into why he did his robust investigation in the first place.
Go on see what you find when you actually look.

I have no doubt that something took place, but what, I do not know. Do I think some of the holocaust has been covered up as well as over-exaggerated, absolutely. I think that's about as honest and open minded as you can expect. Who knows what would be found if the truth could be uncovered? Are you saying that you have read everything that has ever been documented on those events? through every archive? do you truly believe that you would be allowed to read even the most sensitive documents? and to what end? Witch hunt? Fuck are we ever going to learn

[husaberg]

I have no doubt that something took place, but what, I do not know. Do I think some of the holocaust has been covered up as well as over-exaggerated, absolutely. I think that's about as honest and open minded as you can expect. Who knows what would be found if the truth could be uncovered? Are you saying that you have read everything that has ever been documented on those events? through every archive? do you truly believe that you would be allowed to read even the most sensitive documents? and to what end? Witch hunt? Fuck are we ever going to learn

What you would learn is the evidence that you refer relating to the gas chambers to was found to be twaddle served up as being science by a guy with no science background at all.
Yet so many people take it as being gospel.
As for the rest the German kept very thorough records. They were pretty anal like that.
To me whether 1 million or 4 or 6 million is largely irrelevant as it is a huge number of innocent people that died as a result of the same crap that axel spews out regularly.
I even showed you this the exact same propaganda. Its near word for word regurgitation.
but denying it occurred shows utter contempt for all those that died, this includes the Slavs the Russians the Romanies and the handicapped.
You are right about this bit when will we learn is pretty apt.

I have never ever seen a case where any victims of what occurred in WW2 that blame the entire German race, rather ironic considering what axel spews out about "the jews" isn't it

[mashman]

I was just thinking there was a confusion of meaning but if you're going to stupid about then I'm not interested.

Thinking isn't your strong point. Perhaps you could explain where you think the confusion was, like by helping me understand that the answer to the question of why is met with another question that infers something about me being from overseas having something to do with it.

Bugger off, most of them are bone-idle lazy with a oversized sense of entitlement, heaps have been 'given' jobs but don't have the brains/skills/personal responsibility to stay in it for long.

I guess the parents can take the biggest amount of blame for that outcome - not the 'system'.

I get it. They don't want to be forced into doing something that they don't want to do yadda yadda yadda. Self-fulfilling prophecy I'm afraid.

... and their parents before them etc...? Like I said, self-fulfilling prophecy.

[mashman]

What you would learn is the evidence that you refer relating to the gas chambers to was found to be twaddle served up as being science by a guy with no science background at all.
Yet so many people take it as being gospel.
As for the rest the German kept very through records. they were pretty anal like that.
To me whether 1 million or 4 or 6 million is largely irrelevant as it is a huge number of innocent people that died as a result of the same crap that axel spews out regularly.
I even showed you this the exact same propaganda
but denying it occurred shows utter contempt for all those that died this includes the Slavs the Russians the Romanies and the handicapped.
You are right when will we learn is pretty apt.

That Akzle has an axe to grind in that area is not my concern. Documents can be falsified, meticulously (not saying that happened, but if the bible can change words etc...). I don't believe that he believes that every Jew is a bad guy. He's smarter than that.
It proves how shit we really can be to each other as you say. Yet somehow we're more civilised because we have drones that can legally wipe out whoever they feel. Gotta sell that hardware. blah blah blah economy rulez.

[husaberg]

That Akzle has an axe to grind in that area is not my concern. Documents can be falsified, meticulously (not saying that happened, but if the bible can change words etc...). I don't believe that he believes that every Jew is a bad guy. He's smarter than that.
It proves how shit we really can be to each other as you say. Yet somehow we're more civilised because we have drones that can legally wipe out whoever they feel. Gotta sell that hardware. blah blah blah economy rulez.

See it is your concern because you were concerned enough to defend him about it previously.
As for the other like I have repeatedly said have a look at the evidence that made you question it occured, as it doesn't stand up to any scrutiny at all.
Why is it you are unwilling to do so?
What is it that prevents you looking, pride?

No hussy, I understood what Akzle meant and in regards to hyis law n shit, I went and read up on all of that too so as not to be a completely ignorant fuck. You're the one making it out to be anti-semitic.

Pulease don't try to defend yourself again by spreading even more hate speech... it's embarrassing.

It is your doing that you map him to the definition despite him saying otherwise. ... I never thought you so sad.

Depending on what he reads, right. I have to say that until very recently I had no question that the holocaust took place. Having read some of the evidence provided, I believe that my position of not questioning the holocaust and relying on what history has stated as what happened is naive. I have no doubt that something took place, but as was mentioned, the blocks were altered post-war and there is no residue of the gas that was supposedly used. Good enough reasons to question the official story. I'm not saying that Jew's weren't slaughtered in some way or another, possibly even using gas chambers... however the chamber of horrors is said to not be bearing the scars of being a gas chamber.

[mashman]

See it is your concern because you were concerned enough to defend him about it previously.
As for the other like I have repeatedly said have a look at the evidence that made you question it occured, as it doesn't stand up to any scrutiny at all.
Why is it you are unwilling to do so?
What is it that prevents you looking, pride?

See, my concern is not what you say it is. I also "defended" him above when I said "I don't believe that he believes that every Jew is a bad guy. He's smarter than that.".
I'm not unwilling to do so. I'm happy to accept that you have seen evidence to the contrary. What are you expecting me to answer with? Come on. Don't be shy. Spit it out.

[husaberg]

See, my concern is not what you say it is. I also "defended" him above when I said "I don't believe that he believes that every Jew is a bad guy. He's smarter than that.".
I'm not unwilling to do so. I'm happy to accept that you have seen evidence to the contrary. What are you expecting me to answer with? Come on. Don't be shy. Spit it out.

If I did it could be construed as being biased, so have a look yourself see what you find when you actually look into the evidence that debunks the blue dye.
it is all very easy to find.
Have a look for the IBM census data and what it was for.

As for Axel The shit that he spews out is exactly the same as was spewed out its word for word 60 years ago.
Its is very clearly anti semetic
At least Oldie is able to separate it out.
His continued use of the words aptly illustrates his true intent.
Are you unable or unwilling to see how what he says parallels the German and ford sanctioned propaganda.

[mashman]

If I did it could be construed as being biased, so have a look yourself see what you find when you actually look into the evidence that debunks the blue dye.
it is all very easy to find.

As for Axel The shit that he spews out is exactly the same as was spewed out its word for word 60 years ago.
At least Oldie is able to separate it out.
His continued use of the words aptly illustrates his true intent.
Are you unable or unwilling to see how what he says parallels the German and ford sanctioned propaganda.

As I said, I'm happy to take your word for it existing. What do you really want to hear husa? Come on.

In see that he feels very strongly about something that you know little to nothing about. I chose to look for myself.
The German and Ford propaganda was just that. There have been much "smarter" men using the same toolset throughout history. Why should I buy any of it 100%?

[Katman]

To me whether 1 million or 4 or 6 million is largely irrelevant as it is a huge number of innocent people that died as a result of the same crap that axel spews out regularly.

Do you give a fuck about the Armenian genocide?

[scumdog]

Do you give a fuck about the Armenian genocide?

4 million Armenians were killed??