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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Yes, the pathetic EASE of obtaining an official document that entitles the holder to certain rights.


    Or people can choose to drive without a licence - which is what the head pig is going to achieve, if his suggestion of having demerits added to speed cameras is implemented.

    The gubbermint is covering their bases well by selling licences to "paper licence" holders etc plus gaining revenue from speeding fines. It's all money in the bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trustme View Post
    I'll add a bit, what's hard about a road rule like ... ,'don't pass on a double yellow line '.
    The fact that there is no such thing as a double yellow line won't help. It is in fact two single yellow lines, one for each direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    .....and no Mr Key the rural roads are not really up to 100 kmph.
    I beg to differ. Some of them are dead straight for miles...
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    The fact that there is no such thing as a double yellow line won't help. It is in fact two single yellow lines, one for each direction.
    Not sure if you're being serious, but the NZTA refer to them as "double yellow no passing lines" in all offical documentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5ive View Post
    Not sure if you're being serious, but the NZTA refer to them as "double yellow no passing lines" in all offical documentation.
    I'm only repeating what the resident KB cops have said.

    If there is such a thing as a "double yellow line" (as in "no passing lines") then what's the legal difference from a single line?
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    I don't think that the general road code specifically refers to double yellow lines, probably because it's condensed, but all of the other official documents do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    what's the legal difference from a single line?
    There is no legal difference, they both exist. What do you call two single lines that you cannot pass on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    If there is such a thing as a "double yellow line" (as in "no passing lines") then what's the legal difference from a single line?
    The real truth is the gap between the yellow lines is ACTUALLY a motorcycle passing lane
    On a Motorcycle you're penetrating distance, right along with the machine!! In a car you're just a spectator, the windshields like a TV!!

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    Clearly ' The Tribesmen ' believe that. Played leap frog with them from Picton to Cheviot. They would fly past me in groups on blind corners marked with ' double yellow lines '. They expected cars to just get out of their way, I kept wishing a Kenworth would come around the corner. Every town they would stop & I would drive past only to be overtaken again with more stupidity. Dickheads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    I beg to differ. Some of them are dead straight for miles...
    Beg you back, lots are winding and twisting too

    Why is everyone is such a hurry.....
    DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5ive View Post
    There is no legal difference, they both exist. What do you call two single lines that you cannot pass on?
    As far as a single driver is concerned I call it a single yellow line. The other side also has a single yellow line. The important point being that only one of the lines applies to drivers on one side of the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reckless View Post
    The real truth is the gap between the yellow lines is ACTUALLY a motorcycle passing lane
    A pocket bike might just fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Beg you back, lots are winding and twisting too
    As usual the truth is a bit of both. I agree that some rural roads are not designed for 100kph.

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Why is everyone is such a hurry.....
    Wanting to do 100kph (on a suitable road) is not being in a hurry. Often it's barely enough to stop a driver falling asleep (and often it's not enough).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Beg you back, lots are winding and twisting too

    Why is everyone is such a hurry.....
    I get your point but whats a rural or secondary road??
    I'd guess once they start dishing out new 70-80k speed limits it'll be every damn road thats not a 100k main arterial.
    Especially when the crashes keep coming and they mark more and more down each year because its not working.

    Sooo Dave Cliff will it work? (Actually he's right law of physics says less speed, less damage).
    But it wont work because people
    1- Simply wont go that slow
    2- will be inattentive if they do?

    Therefore Dave Cliff will put more and more speed cameras out, introduce demerits, Continuously Double yellow damn near every road, still blame it all on speed.
    And crashes could go up (as they did last Xmas)?

    He's a dick between the 101k thing and this, I have lost a lot of faith in the competency of the NZ police force.
    On a Motorcycle you're penetrating distance, right along with the machine!! In a car you're just a spectator, the windshields like a TV!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    As far as a single driver is concerned I call it a single yellow line. The other side also has a single yellow line. The important point being that only one of the lines applies to drivers on one side of the road.
    Nevermind, I re-read his post again. Your post didn't contain his full quote, hence I thought you were denying the existence or naming convention of double painted lines on the road surface.

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