"Traffic engineering"? Yeah right

[FJRider]

There are several roundabouts on that Expressway, which I understand officially means a road with limited or controlled access, and so perhaps replacing that intersection with a roundabout would be a sensible move.

He'll be bitching about the slowing of traffic on that road next ... if they do ...

[Tazz]

Every intersection is potentially dangerous if you fuck it up.

[Zedder]

Then petion the Government to spend the money recieved as (and paid as) ROAD TAX ... ON THE FUCKING ROADS ...

I probably need my head read but I kinda missed this sort of thing. Afaik, there's a deficit of about a billion dollars for roading so petitioning won't fix it.

[bogan]

Every turn of a wheel .... means 6 feet further away .... or 6 feet closer to home ..

Not if you are traveling perpendicular to your home direction it doesn't!

[FJRider]

Not if you are traveling perpendicular to your home direction it doesn't!

You probably mean ... In a Radius ...

[bogan]

You probably mean ... In a Radius ...

No, because that is not a thing; you may have meant travelling at a specific radius from your house, but that is exactly what my explanation means anyway. Of course even vaguely not travelling along the direction of one's house cause the distance to be lower than 6 alleged feet...

[Ulsterkiwi]

well, said roading engineers 'fixed' the Otaihanga Road intersection with SH1 just North of Paraparaumu using a roundabout. I was living in the area before the roundabout was built. Anecdotally there have been more major incidents since it went in. Trucks overcooking the North bound camber and rolling have hit the news a few times.
Of course part of the problem is the average driver seems to be unable to either indicate or use lanes properly at a roundabout so that doesn't help the situation much.

[Scuba_Steve]

well, said roading engineers 'fixed' the Otaihanga Road intersection with SH1 just North of Paraparaumu using a roundabout. I was living in the area before the roundabout was built. Anecdotally there have been more major incidents since it went in.

Yea when it comes to the ever increasing colossal fuckups like that one you have to kinda wonder if the word "engineer" is just being thrown out like candy at a parade when it comes to roading... it must be like how Subway call their staff "artists" & Mobil call theirs "technicians"

[bogan]

Every turn of a wheel .... means 6 feet further away .... or 6 feet closer to home ..

Or if you are doing a Phat skid, au

[Zedder]

well, said roading engineers 'fixed' the Otaihanga Road intersection with SH1 just North of Paraparaumu using a roundabout. I was living in the area before the roundabout was built. Anecdotally there have been more major incidents since it went in. Trucks overcooking the North bound camber and rolling have hit the news a few times.
Of course part of the problem is the average driver seems to be unable to either indicate or use lanes properly at a roundabout so that doesn't help the situation much.

I'm not familiar with that area, but it looks like there's a need for what's called a traffic calming device prior to the roundabout.

[swbarnett]

People will make mistakes, it would be very prudent to build a roundabout to reduce the speed at which collisions would occur.

With this line of thinking we should just all stay at home. Yes, people make mistakes and always will. The problem is that the more we dumb things down the more mistakes will be made.

[R650R]

Didn't take long, another dies at this SNAFU of an intersection described in the first post of this thread.
Although this time it s a cyclist moving as a pedestrian it highlights our halfway infrastructure in NZ. We've built these fancy cycleways but not made the access to them safe.
I think the 80 speed limit may have given them a false sense of security also. The sad thing is there is a safe alternate route to where they were likely going that has a crossing to the other side with an island very close by. Some simple signage could have prevented tragedy....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...ruck-in-napier