Yet another ATGATT thread

[rastuscat]

Yup, gotta get this one off my chest.

Finished work yesterday, heading home on the troll bike.

Left the motorway at Kaiapoi, and who passed me on overbridge at the top of the the offramp but a plonker on a Harley. Helmet, t-shirt, shorts, trainers. What's worse, his 14 year old daughter was on the pillion pad, dressed similarly.

Apparently it was okay, as he'd just washed the bike (it was spotless) and he was only just drying it out. He wasn't out on a "real" ride.

I gave him the "You make my ACC levies so high" speech, but really, I felt like beating him with a frozen fish. Honestly, what makes us think we are so fecking bulletproof.

Rant concludes.

And just to lighten up the subject, here's a picture of a rabbit with a pikelet on it's head.

[Grubber]

He was heading for motorway wasn't he? Real ride would be what then?

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[Kickaha]

I gave him the "You make my ACC levies so high" speech

If you gave that speech to me I'd tell you to fuck off, it makes no difference what anyone wears to ACC levies unless they crash

[sil3nt]

He isn't the reason the levies are high. Its the people that keep crashing that are doing that.

Sounds like he was riding legally and you pulled him over for no reason.

[Berries]

If you gave that speech to me I'd tell you to fuck off, it makes no difference what anyone wears to ACC levies unless they crash

I probably wouldn't use the same words but agree entirely.

Any chance we can all agree on what All The Gear actually means? Can we fuck, so all ATGATT threads are pointless from the start.

[Katman]

If you gave that speech to me I'd tell you to fuck off, it makes no difference what anyone wears to ACC levies unless they crash

I probably wouldn't use the same words but agree entirely.

I'd use exactly the same words.

[swbarnett]

I gave him the "You make my ACC levies so high" speech, but really, I felt like beating him with a frozen fish. Honestly, what makes us think we are so fecking bulletproof.

WHY??? Yes, you have the legal right to stop anybody for anything but this has all the hallmarks of a religious zealot. This rider was doing everything legally and, by the sounds of it, was not riding like a nutter and yet you feel you have the right to lecture them on a point of philosophy. This is not within your brief as a public servant.

[R650R]

That's nothing compared to what I saw earlier in week...

Straight from the "Its my right to endanger myself" road cycling community comes backpack baby.... but it wasn't even a proper harness or anything.
This tool had his (I assume) 2-3? year old daughter piggybacking him with a small back pack worn by the cyclist the only token restraint at stopping her from falling. He was pedalling a good 30 clicks or so on a busy arterial route full of heavy trucks. If he happened to crash his weight would crush her to death on impact. Was tempted to phone plod but no real distinguishing features to ID offender...

[jim.cox]

Go check your manual of police procedures.

A patronising lecture from a holier than thou cunt with a blue gang patch is NOT a legal reason to stop someone going about their business

And you wonder why no one likes you coppers.

Its called freedom. You might not like it. But it is important to some of us.

[rastuscat]

Go check your manual of police procedures.

A patronising lecture from a holier than thou cunt with a blue gang patch is NOT a legal reason to stop someone going about their business

And you wonder why no one likes you coppers.

Its called freedom. You might not like it. But it is important to some of us.

Hmmmm, seems I've stirred up a hornets nest.

I'm tempted to delete the thread, as I'm clearly in the wrong.

Before I do that, Google "degloving injuries" for me. Is that really a personal choice?

And given that we all bang on about how everything is someone elses fault, how about we start to protect ourselves against those nutbars trying to harm us?

[rastuscat]

Go check your manual of police procedures.

A patronising lecture from a holier than thou cunt with a blue gang patch is NOT a legal reason to stop someone going about their business

And you wonder why no one likes you coppers.

Its called freedom. You might not like it. But it is important to some of us.

Thanks for the lovely response, BTW.

[rastuscat]

WHY??? Yes, you have the legal right to stop anybody for anything but this has all the hallmarks of a religious zealot. This rider was doing everything legally and, by the sounds of it, was not riding like a nutter and yet you feel you have the right to lecture them on a point of philosophy. This is not within your brief as a public servant.

So on here we get bagged for doing nothing but write tickets, yet I'm now being bagged for trying to do something different.

No fecking wonder I'm moving on.

[swbarnett]

Google "degloving injuries" for me. Is that really a personal choice?

You're clearly confused about the difference between riding and crashing. They are NOT one in the same.

And given that we all bang on about how everything is someone elses fault,

Speak for yourself. I'm alive today because I take responsibility for my own safety. Irrespective of what others do.

[sugilite:Me]

It is all about perception. I suspect that rastus has witnessed many a bad injury that could of been avoided by wearing the right gear. See enough of that sort of thing, why not try and make a difference? Who is not to say the guy did not go home and upon reflection think "maybe that copper was right".
Not being on a "real ride" does not turn the road into marshmallow if one has a real crash.

[swbarnett]

So on here we get bagged for doing nothing but write tickets, yet I'm now being bagged for trying to do something different.

No fecking wonder I'm moving on.

It would be different if you were actually targeting dangerous riding practices (assuming we agree on what those are) and not harping on about how bad it is for us to have the freedom to choose how to keep our skin where it belongs.

But then I'm of the "ambulance at the bottom of the cliff" school of thought so I'd rather you and the rest of the safety zealots just shut up (on the road that is, say what you like online) until after the fact when you actually have some evidence that what you don't like might actually have been a bad idea.