Just to piss Maha off......

[Maha]

I was going to post 'Have you seem where the n and m are on a leyboard' but knew the excitement would just be too much for Mark.

I did consider doing a cartwheel on the back lawn, but was revealed to discover that your top two inches is not 98% perfect.

[Madness]

I did consider doing a cartwheel on the back lawn, but was revealed...

I'm relieved I wasn't there to see that.

[TheDemonLord]

I suggest you get a brain, then try to learn how to use it. If you think (and you've said you do) illegally invading another country, so you can steal their oil and make millions for your bent cronie mates by giving them all manner of contracts to *rebuild* the very place you've just destroyed, all under the total lie of finding *weapons of mass destruction* is all kosher...you're thicker than I originally thought. We (New Zealanders) didn't create the hell hole that is now Iraq/Syria etc etc...not our job to risk hundreds of our men and women cleaning up the mess the Yanks and Poms created.

Even if I agree with everything you said about the Iraq invasion - for me, the end (removing a Genocidal Psychopathic Dictator with a penchant for Torture and using NBCs on his own people) Justifies the means.

As for blaming the Yanks and the Poms - you know that when Britian mandated Palestine (1920) NZ was still a member of the British Empire (So we are responsible by Proxy) and if my NZ history is correct - The act that seperated NZ into its own country was passed in 1948 and was implemented on January 1 1949, whereas Israel was made a state in 1947 - so again, NZ was still 'British' and any mistakes were NZ's by proxy (although lets forgo the arguement, because we both know you will never admit to any culpability in it)

as for not our job - you clear missed the entire point of my post.

Bad things happen to those less fortunate because people like yourself refuse to get their hands dirty helping out their fellow man.

Because afterall - who cares about the hundreds of thousands of people being tortured and executed - so long as a few hundred Kiwi's don't come home in Body bags right?

[buggerit]

There are 3 main issues with this:

1: Saddam was rather paranoid about this and so took lots of precautions, not to mention such an action would be an almost death sentance for the shooter.

Granted, not a job for the poms or the yanks, but achievable.


2: We in the west are rather squeamish about state sanctioned assassinations (afterall, a death sentence without the due process of a trial is akin to murder)

So whos going to tell them?

3: Perhaps most importantly - History has shown that rarely does this work - typically the government structure collapses until someone with the strength of character emerges to restore order - typically this person will have been 'schooled' by their predecessor (by observing how they operated to maintain law and order) and usually tend to be even worse.

So isn't that what has happened in the region?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Bad things happen to those less fortunate because people like yourself refuse to get their hands dirty helping out their fellow man.

And like I say...people like myself? When do you fly out? If you're not about to...shut the fuck up. Because sitting on your mothers lap, making brave statements on her computer, does not make you a war hero saving the poor people of such places. As much as you like to think it does. What a fucking wankstain you are.

[Maha]

I'm relieved I wasn't there to see that.

Run out without facing a ball.

[husaberg]

I was going to post 'Have you seem where the n and m are on a leyboard' but knew the excitement would just be too much for Mark.

Talking about excitement any more of these free energy engines the media and big business is hiding from us Katamarangatang......

And it's a classic example of mainstream media only telling us what the powers that be want us to be told.

Has anyone seen this?

http://xtrememusclecars.co/inventor-...ng-this-video/

It always amazes me how quickly some people form a conclusion before they've even investigated an idea.

See, that's what makes you a fucking moron.

What the fuck has him being sent to a nuthouse or convicted of multiple counts of fraud have to do with the theory of what we're discussing?

Even if it was debunked by chemist or engineers it could be still a big oil in a conspiracy plot
The inventor claims they drilled his teeth.
he also reportedly charges 3500 dollar for a weekend seminar to show people how it works.
Free seems pretty expensive these days.
http://kfor.com/2012/11/09/the-man-w...e-magic-motor/
http://okgazette.com/2013/01/02/liquid-energy
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informe...-and-his-motor

It always amazes me how quickly some people form a conclusion before they've even investigated an idea.

[nodrog:Me]

...., does not make you a war hero saving the poor people of such places......

careful, he's probably clocked tour of duty or something on his playstaion.

[Katman]

careful, he's probably clocked tour of duty...

With Valour.

[Crasherfromwayback]

careful, he's probably clocked tour of duty or something on his playstaion.

With Valour.

And wears his chocolate starfish badge with P.R.I.D.E.

[Katman]

I did consider doing a cartwheel on the back lawn, but was revealed to discover that your top two inches is not 98% perfect.

You make it too easy.

[husaberg]

You make it too easy.

As easy as the alternative fuel engine, go on tell us more about how Big oil is trying to keep it under wraps..........

[oldrider]

Even if I agree with everything you said about the Iraq invasion - for me, the end (removing a Genocidal Psychopathic Dictator with a penchant for Torture and using NBCs on his own people) Justifies the means.

As for blaming the Yanks and the Poms - you know that when Britian mandated Palestine (1920) NZ was still a member of the British Empire (So we are responsible by Proxy) and if my NZ history is correct - The act that seperated NZ into its own country was passed in 1948 and was implemented on January 1 1949, whereas Israel was made a state in 1947 - so again, NZ was still 'British' and any mistakes were NZ's by proxy (although lets forgo the arguement, because we both know you will never admit to any culpability in it)

as for not our job - you clear missed the entire point of my post.

Bad things happen to those less fortunate because people like yourself refuse to get their hands dirty helping out their fellow man.

Because afterall - who cares about the hundreds of thousands of people being tortured and executed - so long as a few hundred Kiwi's don't come home in Body bags right?

KBr's generally, if you can ignore the religious as informative and simply the bearer of the revelations of this clip you might find it worthwhile to fully view it!

The clip covers most of the things we (KBr's) have commented on (sometimes in confused ignorance) on many serious world historical subjects!

View with an open mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL6v8nzFiUk - and consider content as the free thinker you believe you are! Enjoy.

[TheDemonLord]

And like I say...people like myself? When do you fly out? If you're not about to...shut the fuck up. Because sitting on your mothers lap, making brave statements on her computer, does not make you a war hero saving the poor people of such places. As much as you like to think it does. What a fucking wankstain you are.

Okay - I will point out the glaring fallacy and blatant hypocrisy of your post:

Does the common soldier have any sway or input as to when, where and how they are deployed?

No?

So then, joining the Armed forces would have zero impact on the world stage, unless I were to be deployed to the various locations - since most of them have had dictatorships for 20+ years, I doubt the NZDF will be going there any time soon.

What does impact where, when and how a soldier is deployed is the Government of the time, Governments that are made of Politicians, Politicians who jobs depend on them pissing off the least amount of people. How then do I effect the lives of others less fortunate than myself (and for the record and a point of order - I do not consider myself a war hero) - I effect the lives of others by realizing that if the price I have to pay to remove genocidal totalitarian bastards like Saddam is to turn a blind eye to the profiteering, flimsy motives and probably illegal reasons (my international law is a little flimsy) - so be it, because ultimately the net-gain for humanity was IMO a positive one. If you do not believe so, and believe that the best solution was to leave it be - then by all means, go live under a totalitarian dictatorship, then let me know if you still sing the same tune. With almost 100% accuracy every survivor of such a regime sings a completely different tune.

Now for the Hypocrisy - for this I can assume you may be a Policeman, or a Firefighter or Paramedic - but I can also assume you cannot be all 3 at the same time.

When you call the Police - you expect them to help, even though that may involve them putting their lives in danger - but you are not a policeman?
When you call the Fire service - you expect them to help, even though that may involve them putting their lives in danger - but you are not a Fireman?
When you call for an Ambulance - you expect them to help, even though that may involve them putting their lives in danger - but you are not a Paramedic?

You expect others to come to your aid, even when it could potentially be at the cost of their own lives - but you are happy to sit idly by for others and say 'not my problem'. And that makes you a Hypocrite.

But anyways - I think we are rather finished with this debate - since you seem to have run out of logical arguments and have had to reduce yourself to childish name calling (which is an automatic win for my position, if you can no longer defend your arguments with reason) - which really serves to simply highlight the level of your intellectual immaturity.


As for Nodrog and Katman:

It's Call of Duty, and it is not 'with valour' but 'with prestige' - however I don't play CoD so your insults land somewhat left of the target.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Okay Blahblahblahblahblah I'm a dreamer.I'd so go over there and rip their balls off if I wasn't so full of shit.

Oh I know you would Big Boy. Got get 'em Tiger.

Bless ya.