Euthanasia

[FJRider]

Here's an idea - there's things called Select Committees.

Here's an idea ... a public referendum ...


What's another 11 milliion ... more or less ...

[98tls]

Late last year a very good friend of mine left work to go to the doctor with what he thought was a bruised tail bone or similar,Xrays done he was informed he had 3 months to live after some chemo there was a brief glimmer of hope then it was all down hill.Spent some time with Vic in the evenings when he was in the last stop shop and all he wanted to do was check out fuck he had Tumors sticking out overnight and he remarked at one stage he wished he was his dog so it could all end peacefully,was pretty obvious to all he was of sound mind and wanted to go so why not have let him i say.

[Katman]

Here's an idea ... a public referendum ...


What's another 11 milliion ... more or less ...

Public submissions towards the decision making is the key.

That's how people currently get to 'speak'.

Decisions as to what qualifies as acceptable grounds for assisted suicide is probably not one they'll be coming to ask of Kiwibiker.

[Katman]

But before public submissions are called for, the proposed legistlation has to be clearly outlined.

[FJRider]

Public submissions towards the decision making is the key.

That's how people currently get to 'speak'.

Decisions as to what qualifies as acceptable grounds for assisted suicide is probably not one they'll be coming to ask of Kiwibiker.

But we ALL know ... The Government knows best .. what is best for us all ... (ask ANY MP)

PUBLIC input is not really needed ... right .. ?? (or did I get it wrong ... again)

[Katman]

PUBLIC input is not really needed ... right .. ?? (or did I get it wrong ... again)

It depends on what you consider 'right'.

[FJRider]

It depends on what you consider 'right'.

If it's good for ME ... it must be right ... even if it's NOT good for you ...


Right .. ??

[Katman]

75% in favour of reviewing our euthanasia laws.

http://www.colmarbrunton.co.nz/image..._July_2015.pdf

[Katman]

Well 22,000 public submissions would indicate that it's a subject that New Zealanders want discussed.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO160...ak-records.htm

[TheDemonLord]

Well 22,000 public submissions would indicate that it's a subject that New Zealanders want discussed.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO160...ak-records.htm

And so it should be.

I still hold that we lack the legal language to write adequate legislation to address the myriad of nuances and factors that would need to be addressed for such a law to be implemented.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I still hold that we lack the legal language to write adequate legislation to address the myriad of nuances and factors that would need to be addressed for such a law to be implemented.

Then we need to overhaul that whilst we're at it.

[Katman]

I still hold that we lack the legal language to write adequate legislation to address the myriad of nuances and factors that would need to be addressed for such a law to be implemented.

Maybe that's why you're in IT and not the legal profession.

[TheDemonLord]

Maybe that's why you're in IT and not the legal profession.

When a Law is written, it has to be written in such a way to cover off all the relevant scenarios, to clearly define what is and isn't legal. In many ways there are similarities between that and Scripting - where I have to cover off all the relevant variables so that the script executes the function as required, if I don't the Script will either fail to execute completely or worse, execute with unintended side effects.

If a law is poorly written (as in is Vague, overly broad or subject to interpretation) then they tend to be ineffective (except for the Lawyers who get to spend hours arguing over these bad laws to a tidy hourly rate).

As stated prior, I support the concept and I welcome discussion, I'm just not sure that we can write legislation to cover off every relevant scenario. The closest I can think of would be where someone who wanted to die would have a hearing in front of a judge, but even that has some issues that I myself wouldn't be keen on.

[Katman]

If a law is poorly written (as in is Vague, overly broad or subject to interpretation) then they tend to be ineffective (except for the Lawyers who get to spend hours arguing over these bad laws to a tidy hourly rate).

I'm confident that if a change to the law was implemented they would employ very clever minds to adequately word the legislation.

I think your doubts are unfounded.

[Grumph]

I'm confident that if a change to the law was implemented they would employ very clever minds to adequately word the legislation.

I think your doubts are unfounded.

You haven't met enough MP's.....