Strange shock behaviour

[nzspokes]

That the shock absorber does the shock absorbing.
The spring does the springing.
That it sounds to me like the shock is not taking the shock out of the stroke, causing the pogoing he refers to.

The why of it is difficult to diagnose for a an amateur like me without seeing oil running out somewhere or the like.
Your gas idea sounds like a better track than that the spring was sprung for someone heavier by only 20 kgs.



Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

I agree with Shaun. If the gas has gone the shock no longer has any compression damping which backs up the spring.

[Shaun Harris]

Build quality is shit alright, it started leaking oil pretty much right after I bought it and it was "serviced" last year because it shat itself and dumped all its oil. Theres a yss authorized dude near me who serviced it last time he said they used crap seals and reckons he put better ones in for me , I guess ill have a chat to him.
Please tell me regassing it is cheap.

Haha you said SHIT not me. They really are CRAPO shocks that some one is making a fortune of selling, with no regard for the crap that they are. What bike is on mate. The FACT that it has done what is done already, tells me the service should be free of charge! Or next step is contact the importer directly and ellaborate on the crap product. I personally believe in PENSKE shocks streight out of the box as they come. The internal build quality of a Penske shock is = or above any other over priced brand name on the world wide market place. I have seen a race lap record broken at Pukekohe a few years back with the shock exactually as per manufactured with correct spring rate and my final settings and sags done for the rider. And that shock was 100% as DELIVERED and fitted from the manufacture, NO need to fuk around and pull it in out and courier to some one to up speck according to what there computor data tells them to do. I am an ex rider racer, so have the feel that no one else in this country has apart from Ray Clee and his white power shocks, and have an awsome reference from one supplier in this country re my set up skills and understanding of how suspension really works.

[Shaun Harris]

Cheers for the support on my honest opinions team. Now certain shit has finally been put to bed after years and years on here, I AM BACK, and WILL be here to help people again as per when I first started in 2004 on here. I will also be doing an up spec suspension training course for penske and Traction dynamics front suspension in the USA in the next 3 months to get me back up to speed and in the modern world, and to bring home more quality spec suspension tools equipment if required for service work.

[Bassmatt]

thanks Shaun and others. I'll look into having it regassed on Monday.

[Shaun Harris]

thanks Shaun and others. I'll look into having it regassed on Monday.

welcome mate. What bike is it on

[Bassmatt]

welcome mate. What bike is it on

kawasaki ex650

[Shaun Harris]

kawasaki ex650

Hope the guys sought it out for you mate

[Bassmatt]

I've been told its an emulsion shock and if there is no sign of oil leaking ( there isn't ) then the gas can't have leaked out.
I was told to make sure the sag was 10 - 15 mm.
?

[Shaun Harris]

I've been told its an emulsion shock and if there is no sign of oil leaking ( there isn't ) then the gas can't have leaked out.
I was told to make sure the sag was 10 - 15 mm.
?

Sounds like you need to take a ride to me in New Plymouth man. I can show/ guide/advise you face to face how to set it all up properlly. For NO CHARGE as I am currently not working and on ACC due to my old injuries acting up again.

[Katman]

Sounds like you need to take a ride to me in New Plymouth man. I can show/ guide/advise you face to face how to set it all up properlly. For NO CHARGE as I am currently not working and on ACC due to my old injuries acting up again.

You sound really desperate Shaun.

[pritch]

You sound really desperate Shaun.

More like bored rather than desperate?

[Maha]

More like bored rather than desperate?

Helpful and willing to offer (free of charge) his knowledge of suspension set up.

[nzspokes]

Helpful and willing to offer (free of charge) his knowledge of suspension set up.

Which is a cool thing to do when he has much more knowledge than pretty much anybody that posts on here.

Free advice for a top IOM rider does not come along everyday.

[Shaun Harris]

Which is a cool thing to do when he has much more knowledge than pretty much anybody that posts on here.

Free advice for a top IOM rider does not come along everyday.

Thankyou Nzspokes

[Robert Taylor]

I've been told its an emulsion shock and if there is no sign of oil leaking ( there isn't ) then the gas can't have leaked out.
I was told to make sure the sag was 10 - 15 mm.
?

No that is not neccessarily so. When the shock is lying idle ( the bike not being used ) most of the nitrogen gas will be at the top of the shock, it will demulsify out of the oil. If there is any leakage path out of the top of the shock it can lose gas pressure without passing oil. Also in my experience emulsion shocks can lose gas pressure with no discernible loss of oil The other very real possibility is that there is a loss of compression dampening because the shims may no longer have enough seat pressure or there is a distorted or fractured shim. Really the shock should come completely apart and such components inspected. As to who is liable is up to everyone to haggle among themselves.
But as other people have eluded to in more brutal terms, the said shock cost a certain amount of money and what was recieved was commensurate with that amount of money. In fairness we from time to time have the odd warranty issue and even when its ''grey'' in terms of the circumstances we err in favour of the customer
We could dyno the shock for the rider but of course there has to be a charge because of our considerable investment in striving to provide a totally proffessional suspension service.