Bugger me, that's him told then

[98tls]

Fucking pathetic http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/new...arris-in-crash he does what 9 months or so? Silly prick even managed to totally ignore the yellows.

[Mike.Gayner]

I was actually pretty impressed with the sentence.

In reality it was a terrible accident caused by stupidity and negligence. But it was still an accident. 18 months in prison and $61,000 in compensation, feels like a just verdict to me.

[FJRider]

... 18 months in prison and $61,000 in compensation, feels like a just verdict to me.

And probably not a very pleasant 18 months in general population either. May even need the protected wing of the Milton Hilton ...

[98tls]

I was actually pretty impressed with the sentence.

In reality it was a terrible accident caused by stupidity and negligence. But it was still an accident. 18 months in prison and $61,000 in compensation, feels like a just verdict to me.

Reality is its probably only 1/2 that in the big house,the money could have been a millon i am betting whatever the $ figure it means fuck all to her parents."it was a terrible accident caused by stupidity and negligence" doesnt wash for me the stupid cunt travelled a long way down a very straight road on the wrong side of the road,he had got as far as he had without killing anyone else by following friends but chose to leave after them from a popular tourist spot.It was simply a major fuckup on his part that deserved more than a slap on the wrist.

[mashman]

"it was a terrible accident caused by stupidity and negligence" doesnt wash for me

Having driven on the wrong side of the road before, even after traveling for several days on that side of the road, something just clicks and you don't notice that you're on the wrong side of the road. Thank fuck for my passengers lol... but it is something that happens without intentional negligence and/or stupidity.

Shit decision to have to make. Wonder if the parents had a hand in the verdict?

[98tls]

Having driven on the wrong side of the road before, even after traveling for several days on that side of the road, something just clicks and you don't notice that you're on the wrong side of the road. Thank fuck for my passengers lol... but it is something that happens without intentional negligence and/or stupidity.

Shit decision to have to make. Wonder if the parents had a hand in the verdict?

Dunno but if some cunt was walking past me on his cell phone whilst my daughter was dying as a result of him being not able to simply drive on the correct side of the road i would be asking for a shitload more than what he got,calling it an accident is little more than an excuse but then on reflection it is the New Zealand justice system so what am i thinkingtheres an excuse for everything.

[mashman]

Dunno but if some cunt was walking past me on his cell phone whilst my daughter was dying as a result of him being not able to simply drive on the correct side of the road i would be asking for a shitload more than what he got,calling it an accident is little more than an excuse but then on reflection it is the New Zealand justice system so what am i thinkingtheres an excuse for everything.

I doubt I'd be none too happy myself at the time.

[Erelyes]

Concurrent sentences are the biggest rort there is.

[98tls]

I doubt I'd be none too happy myself at the time.

Agreed,thing is at the time of the accident the prick showed no interest at all in what he had done which continued on for some time as when the deceased little girls uncle who had driven from Oamaru to the accident showed up he was still frantically making calls without even then showing any interest in anyone else involved i will add that though the drive wasnt that far it took a fair old time as he had to get passed a shitload of traffic held up on there way to a Super 15 game in Dunedin.All that aside and yea i guess theres some bias on my part as i know the people involved to call such an incident an accident seems fucked up to me,it was complete incompetence to put it politely and the sentence should have reflected that.Personal responsibility...anyone remember such a thing?

[mashman]

Agreed,thing is at the time of the accident the prick showed no interest at all in what he had done which continued on for some time as when the deceased little girls uncle who had driven from Oamaru to the accident showed up he was still frantically making calls without even then showing any interest in anyone else involved i will add that though the drive wasnt that far it took a fair old time as he had to get passed a shitload of traffic held up on there way to a Super 15 game in Dunedin.All that aside and yea i guess theres some bias on my part as i know the people involved to call such an incident an accident seems fucked up to me,it was complete incompetence to put it politely and the sentence should have reflected that.Personal responsibility...anyone remember such a thing?

The guy sounds like a cunt.

[98tls]

The guy sounds like a cunt.

To be fair ive no idea fella but whether he is or not to me anyway matters little he got into a motor vehicle without the skill to use it safely which resulted in a little girls departure and a short stay in jail wont dissuade anyone else from doing the same,as i said earlier the monetary figure is irrelevant and personally i wouldnt accept a dime of a court appointed figure to supposedly appease my emotional grief.

[oldrider]

Agreed,thing is at the time of the accident the prick showed no interest at all in what he had done which continued on for some time as when the deceased little girls uncle who had driven from Oamaru to the accident showed up he was still frantically making calls without even then showing any interest in anyone else involved i will add that though the drive wasnt that far it took a fair old time as he had to get passed a shitload of traffic held up on there way to a Super 15 game in Dunedin.All that aside and yea i guess theres some bias on my part as i know the people involved to call such an incident an accident seems fucked up to me,it was complete incompetence to put it politely and the sentence should have reflected that.Personal responsibility...anyone remember such a thing?

Mike - I have been a bit perplexed by this incident so have also tried to put aside my anger and wonder what it would be like to be in the foreign drivers position.

Bare in mind him being Chinese he is entirely a stranger in a strange land and very limited ability to speak English and has fucked up big time - not a good place to be!

Obviously he didn't do what he did out of malice or on purpose - his race does not show emotions exactly the same way that we do but he may possibly feel the same!

How would it be for us in a Chinese jail with the same horrible responsibilities hanging on our shoulders and an inability to show any signs of remorse Chinese style!

Maybe it was our own countries behaviours and customs that let everybody down and contributed to the whole thing?

There but for the grace of (???) go I - or you - or anybloodybody? - can't undo it - maybe we can prevent it happening again though!

[98tls]

Mike - I have been a bit perplexed by this incident so have also tried to put aside my anger and wonder what it would be like to be in the foreign drivers position.

Bare in mind him being Chinese he is entirely a stranger in a strange land and very limited ability to speak English and has fucked up big time - not a good place to be!

Obviously he didn't do what he did out of malice or on purpose - his race does not show emotions exactly the same way that we do but he may possibly feel the same!

How would it be for us in a Chinese jail with the same horrible responsibilities hanging on our shoulders and an inability to show any signs of remorse Chinese style!

Maybe it was our own countries behaviours and customs that let everybody down and contributed to the whole thing?

There but for the grace of (???) go I - or you - or anybloodybody? - can't undo it - maybe we can prevent it happening again though!

Fair post John but lets not forget as i said earlier he got to where he was safely by FOLLOWING friends more accustomed to our roads and then chose to let them leave ahead of him....then upon setting off from the tourist spot drove directly onto the wrong side of the road and the rest is history,accident? no way.Sincerely i get what your saying but for my money he took a gamble and left a mess,9 months in the big house wont change any future fuck ups.

[mashman]

To be fair ive no idea fella but whether he is or not to me anyway matters little he got into a motor vehicle without the skill to use it safely which resulted in a little girls departure and a short stay in jail wont dissuade anyone else from doing the same,as i said earlier the monetary figure is irrelevant and personally i wouldnt accept a dime of a court appointed figure to supposedly appease my emotional grief.

No doubt it's something the wider family are going to carry with themselves forever. I'm not defending the guy's inattention, but wrong time wrong place and a lot of other factors culminated in something exceptionally distressing happening. We're never gonna stop those sort of things, as there's no way to really gauge experience behind the wheel. I would feel a lot safer if tourists had to pass a wee test, but I dunno how logistically possible that could be (as I know how easy it is to end up on the wrong side of the road)? Til then we can only be more attentive I guess.

[Mike.Gayner]

Having driven on the wrong side of the road before, even after traveling for several days on that side of the road, something just clicks and you don't notice that you're on the wrong side of the road. Thank fuck for my passengers lol... but it is something that happens without intentional negligence and/or stupidity.

Yep, was the same when I've driven overseas. I always assumed that driving on the right would be fairly natural - fuck me it took A LOT more attention that I expected.

It's a shitty situation - how would jailing him for life make it any better?