Gearbox oil entered engine

**DeadeyeDent** · 14th June 2015, 18:04

Evening All,

I'll try to make a long story short. I recently sold a Suzuki TF125 and organised transport at mates rates whereby the bike was transported on its side (partly elevated on some sand bags). Some gearbox oil leaked during transport, the recipient topped this up added fresh fuel and went to start it. Apparently it ran a couple of times smoked like hell spat some oil out the exhaust manifold and died. My conclusion is that the gearbox oil leaked into the cylinder.

He took the spark plug out and cranked the engine to clear it and then tried several times to start it but it wont run. As I result I now re-own the bike if/when I decide to drive the best part of a 1000ks to pick it up and bring it home. It recently had a top end re-build so I'm hoping its not completely stuffed but can anyone give me some direction as to what sort of damage would have been caused and what the likely fix is going to be (if its another top end re-build she's going to the wreckers....)

Lesson learned - pay for professional transport and never lie a bike on its side

**Kickaha** · 14th June 2015, 18:07

Originally Posted by DeadeyeDent

He took the spark plug out and cranked the engine to clear it and then tried several times to start it but it wont run.

Did he replace the plug?

**FJRider** · 14th June 2015, 18:19

I doubt if the issue is serious. I've transported bikes many times that way.

Check for spark first.

Clean the plug (does it have points .. ??)

And check there is fuel flow. The filter in the tank may be blocked.

**mossy1200** · 14th June 2015, 18:37

I sold a quad once and new owner complained so much about her 600 purchase I gave her money back on the condition she returned the brand new battery next time she was in town. Been a year now. Im starting to wonder if she has plans to come to town at all. I guess she is happy with her free quad now.

**DeadeyeDent** · 14th June 2015, 18:41

As far as I know he 'cleaned' the spark plug but I'm not sure if he actually replaced it. Must admit I was kind of hoping that maybe a new spark plug could be a cheap miracle fix!

At this stage I haven't got the bike - its in Christchurch and I'm in Cromwell. I've arranged to get it dropped at my inlaws once I refund the cash but it is likely to be a few weeks at least before I can get up there with a trailer and bring it back and have a good look at things myself. At this stage I'm just trying to confirm whether the potential damage and $$$ to fix is worth the trip to pick it up.

**FJRider** · 14th June 2015, 18:59

Originally Posted by DeadeyeDent

As far as I know he 'cleaned' the spark plug but I'm not sure if he actually replaced it. Must admit I was kind of hoping that maybe a new spark plug could be a cheap miracle fix!

At this stage I haven't got the bike - its in Christchurch and I'm in Cromwell. I've arranged to get it dropped at my inlaws once I refund the cash but it is likely to be a few weeks at least before I can get up there with a trailer and bring it back and have a good look at things myself. At this stage I'm just trying to confirm whether the potential damage and $$$ to fix is worth the trip to pick it up.

As long it has spark in all the right places ... and is getting fuel. It should run.

You might need to drain and flush the carb. (a blast of easy start down it's throat might help)

I can't imagine why a trip on it's side would cause a major issue.

**Kickaha** · 14th June 2015, 20:24

Originally Posted by DeadeyeDent

At this stage I'm just trying to confirm whether the potential damage and $$$ to fix is worth the trip to pick it up.

There should be fuck all wrong with it, a trip on its side wont do anything, cleaning the plug is a waste of time he should have put a new one one and checked for spark

**jellywrestler** · 14th June 2015, 20:29

Originally Posted by DeadeyeDent

I decide to drive the best part of a 1000ks to pick it up and bring it home. It recently had a top end re-build so I'm hoping its not completely stuffed but can anyone give me some direction as to what sort of damage would have been caused and what the likely fix is going to be (if its another top end re-build she's going to the wreckers....)

Lesson learned - pay for professional transport and never lie a bike on its side

why not get a local mechanic to sort it, cheaper than 1000km, time etc, and then it's sorted by a proffesional.

**DeadeyeDent** · 15th June 2015, 08:52

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

why not get a local mechanic to sort it, cheaper than 1000km, time etc, and then it's sorted by a proffesional.

Because the guy who bought it simply wants his money back as its not going. I haven't got anyone in CHCH who can take it to a mechanic to get checked out + having to refund the buyer I haven't got the coin right now to spend on a mechanic. Plan is to tow a trailer up to CHCH when I go up for the mother in laws 70th in a couple of months and get it back home and get the local guy who did the top end re-build to check it out for me - if its not as simple as a new spark plug.

**caseye** · 15th June 2015, 08:58

Originally Posted by DeadeyeDent

Because the guy who bought it simply wants his money back as its not going. I haven't got anyone in CHCH who can take it to a mechanic to get checked out + having to refund the buyer I haven't got the coin right now to spend on a mechanic. Plan is to tow a trailer up to CHCH when I go up for the mother in laws 70th in a couple of months and get it back home and get the local guy who did the top end re-build to check it out for me - if its not as simple as a new spark plug.

Calling the Great Willy!
Oh Willy, this guy could do with a spark plug Mec, reckon you could handle that for him?
Sure he'll be a long in a tick.

**willytheekid** · 15th June 2015, 13:35

Originally Posted by caseye

Calling the Great Willy!
Oh Willy, this guy could do with a spark plug Mec, reckon you could handle that for him?
Sure he'll be a long in a tick.

Hi Caseye

Hmmm

...I do have a mate with a bike trailer I could arrange to borrow for pick up.

If DeadeyeDent wants me to arrange something, no problem at all, plenty of room in the garage (And its secure), and I do love to play mechanic

(Dosn't sound too serious to be honest)...or I could also drop it off to Roger @ road & race in New Brighton, and have him check it out if he wishes (Best mechanic in chch, and great prices!)

your call DeadeyeDent

...Im always happy to help out our fellow KBers

-sup Caseye

(Recovering from Winters 3rd Birthday party yesterday...mini tornado/kids destroyed my house

) - stay well mate

**DeadeyeDent** · 15th June 2015, 20:15

Originally Posted by willytheekid

Hi Caseye

Hmmm

...I do have a mate with a bike trailer I could arrange to borrow for pick up.

If DeadeyeDent wants me to arrange something, no problem at all, plenty of room in the garage (And its secure), and I do love to play mechanic

(Dosn't sound too serious to be honest)...or I could also drop it off to Roger @ road & race in New Brighton, and have him check it out if he wishes (Best mechanic in chch, and great prices!)

your call DeadeyeDent

...Im always happy to help out our fellow KBers

-sup Caseye

(Recovering from Winters 3rd Birthday party yesterday...mini tornado/kids destroyed my house

) - stay well mate

Hi willythekid. Wow, that is a hugely generous offer and really appreciated. Bloody amazing the good buggers you meet on forums like these

It is probably going to take a week or so until the refund is sorted and I can organise to pick it back up but if you were able to help me out in that regard (and of course at your convenience) I'd make sure that there are some beers in it for your trouble. I'll flick ya a PM once things are sorted between me and the buyer and go from there.

I'm hoping from all the comments above it is going to turn out to be simple fix, will keep the fingers crossed!

**Akzle** · 15th June 2015, 20:32

Originally Posted by willytheekid

3rd Birthday party yesterday...mini tornado/kids destroyed my house

)

you should know by now. Children, ants, and grizzly bears.
DONT leave food out!

**willytheekid** · 15th June 2015, 21:57

Originally Posted by DeadeyeDent

Hi willythekid. Wow, that is a hugely generous offer and really appreciated. Bloody amazing the good buggers you meet on forums like these

It is probably going to take a week or so until the refund is sorted and I can organise to pick it back up but if you were able to help me out in that regard (and of course at your convenience) I'd make sure that there are some beers in it for your trouble. I'll flick ya a PM once things are sorted between me and the buyer and go from there.

I'm hoping from all the comments above it is going to turn out to be simple fix, will keep the fingers crossed!

No prob, always nice to help KBer out

...just let me know what I'm doing, and when I'm doing it once your all sorted