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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    ... Letting a black person off is much nicer than just shooting them dead.
    mmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... a tough choice. Perhaps we should take a poll ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    It's a totally predictable over reaction.

    Schemes like this have popped up all over the country. The way this one was managed was appalling. The race focus is the problem.

    However, if a particular demographic has a problem and you design a solution to address that problem, isn't that actually a good thing?

    It's similar to the cock up in the communication of the zero tolerance over Christmas. Totally awful promotion of a philosophy.
    I have been saying this about any number of police PR cluster f***ks since whenever. The boys at the top might be good police officers but almost to a person are completely shit at communicating with the public or explaining their thinking. Result? Very very pissed off public who end up disengaged with every good thing the police are trying to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    mmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... a tough choice. Perhaps we should take a poll ...
    Just don't take that poll in an American police station...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    It is most definitely bullshit if it's designed to rort numbers and make stats appear "better"; if you're going to do it for some, do it for all; and most definitely don't base thing on race - deal with the actions not the colour. I too have seen plenty of elderly whiteys who scare the crap out of me behind the wheel of their cars - I just hope I don't turn into one of 'em one day!!
    The take it to the other end for speeding, so its hardly a surprise really; the race part is though.

    Easy to be one of those elderly whiteys I think, especially if you live rural; nan just gave up her keys, I'd been hinting at that for a few years now but when you live 30mins from town its a tough call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulsterkiwi View Post
    The boys at the top might be good police officers
    They might have been once but that was some time ago. In more recent times we have had a Commissioner who tried to bully a new constable into not breath testing his wife. Another who was involved in the Peter Ellis fiasco, which I would have thought should have disqualified him, made it to the top job.

    Too often it seems people are appointed to positions within the police not because of experience or ability but because they have the right seniority and they can sit there until they retire. Maybe Mr Haumaha is one such. He doesn't see the recommendation as racist, but this could fairly be likened to not being able to see the wood for the trees.

    Once I was chatting to an acquaintance and had cause to point out that what he was saying was racist. He looked shocked and replied that he couldn't be racist because he was a maori. He looked completely lost as I attempted to disabuse him of that notion.
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    This is great, I'll get off my next speeding ticket so long as I do a mandatory track day at Taupo

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    ... Once I was chatting to an acquaintance and had cause to point out that what he was saying was racist. He looked shocked and replied that he couldn't be racist because he was a maori. He looked completely lost as I attempted to disabuse him of that notion.
    But ... but ... but ... Billy T told racist jokes ... and everybody laughed ...
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    ...if any one needs special treatment by the law, it's us gingas...we should be let off, with non provocative types of words and serious consideration given to the fact that we know everything that's important...and even more importanter shit, too!...carry on officers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellipsis View Post
    ...if any one needs special treatment by the law, it's us gingas...
    True ... the ginger gives a good aiming point too ... Coincidence .. ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post

    It's similar to the cock up in the communication of the zero tolerance over Christmas. Totally awful promotion of a philosophy.
    Agreed rastuscat, and it seems they've altered their approach since,with the last couple of holiday periods.

    Someone has had their knuckles wacked.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50Shades View Post
    This is great, I'll get off my next speeding ticket so long as I do a mandatory track day at Taupo
    Rubbish. Have you ever had a blood transfusion...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    But ... but ... but ... Billy T told racist jokes ... and everybody laughed ...
    No they didn't .. (I thought he was hilarious) .. I know lots of people who were pissed off at him .. claimed he was perpetrating stereotypes and demeaning Māori ..
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    What gives food for thought is not so much that 'they' have a racist policy; given the rise of political correctness, treaty- mongering, and special-snowflake status for certain people/groups that's a given.

    What is more worrying is that they are completely blind to the fact this is a racist policy.

    If you go looking for drunk drivers near pubs, if you go looking for speeders on the overtaking lanes, if you focus your intention on where things tend to go wrong/the law tends to be broken, none of that is singling people out on the basis of race. This policy, uniquely, does so.

    And Haumaha was almost spluttering with indignation that people thought it was racist.

    Not only does he beclown himself in public, he embarrasses his colleagues, and confirms the belief of the New Zealand public that what used to be an institution we were proud to respect when we were growing up, is going further down the gurgler with every decade, with every public relations stupidity, with every false claim of reducing the road toll, with every planting of evidence, with every failure to prosecute, with every innocent person in prison because of evidential falsifications in the Crown's case.

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