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    Racism.......?
    never cut anybody yet who is pink and red inside......
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    I guess that if their goal is to reduce the "over representation of Maori in those statistics" then the obvious solution is to not ticket therefore they don't become a statistic. Voila! - over representation removed. And all the people said "aaaay-men".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virago View Post
    So why does race need to be written into the guidelines?

    Probably because that document appears to be from an intervention that is specifically aimed at reducing Maori offending and victimisation "Turning the Tides" hence "Whanau Ora", above the brief line of writing shown on TV. The document looks like a rough draft given it has Maori as "maori" in one sentence and then spells licence three times as "Liscence" - no official policy or guideline would be so crude.

    http://www.police.govt.nz/about-us/m...e/turning-tide

    It's no different to coming up with interventions that specifically target Asian victims of crime or offenders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bassmatt View Post
    what bro?, me and my cousies from Souf orkland dont dont now nuffin about that ngati shit
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    I guess that if their goal is to reduce the "over representation of Maori in those statistics" then the obvious solution is to not ticket therefore they don't become a statistic. Voila! - over representation removed. And all the people said "aaaay-men".
    Actually the goal is "20 percent reduction in the proportion of casualties in fatal and serious crashes who are Maori" by 2018

    http://www.police.govt.nz/about-us/m...e/turning-tide

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    I'm just going to put a bottle of fake tan in the door pocket & spray it on my face when I get pulled up. Problem solved.
    I'm going to plead "my grandfather was adopted - I always suspected he was part Maori"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mada View Post
    Actually the goal is "20 percent reduction in the proportion of casualties in fatal and serious crashes who are Maori" by 2018

    http://www.police.govt.nz/about-us/m...e/turning-tide
    Good luck with that - by letting them off when breaking the law, how does that help? Just askin'.
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    Both amusing and ironic... watching the usual apologists doing contortions to try and prove this racist police policy is not a racist police policy


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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Yeah yeah .. just catching up ..

    If that's what the cops are doing then hell, I certainly do not support that at all ... the law is the law ... and one law for all ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    Good luck with that - by letting them off when breaking the law, how does that help? Just askin'.
    Well the media hype says that. And that hype will probably encourage that, good job to the media!

    This is not policy or law. Police Officers have their discretion as to whether a Maori or anyone else gets put onto such a programme. It's more likely that the guideline intent is if a person is high risk (which appears the case for Maori more likely than Pakeha) consider this alternative which they have the resources for.


    If we truly want one law for all then we need to remove police discretion. The amount of times I've been waved through checkpoints, or if pulled over and let off for breech conditions, speeding, no WOF/Rego, more times than the fingers on my hands, helps I have a white face.

    Where is the concern that Maori are more likely to be profiled for Police intervention because of their high risk??? How about their higher chances of being prosecuted for the same offence, and given a stiffer sentence. We keen for that?

    Do we believe profiling for high risk is justified, but interventions to address high risk is not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virago View Post
    A rather nonsensical comparison. Was the campaign aimed (or not aimed) at specific demographics, or applied to all parents / caregivers?
    Or ... was it aimed at a problem ... area .. ?? Plenty of poor whiteys getting discretion too ... but perhaps we leave them out of the equation and not mention it .... (doesnt help the ranters eh .. ??)

    Quote Originally Posted by Virago View Post
    So it's only Maori who can't afford to pay? Why should they be singled out for special favour?
    The only raceist was the officer that instigated the ([now] well) publicised campaign.

    On the news on three tonight ... it was announced the wording in the campaign is to be re-worded. But I hope the perscution of chinese drivers will stop. OBVIOUSLY ... as it's race based issue.
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    There is no need to look for complex explanations when the simple ones will do. Occam's Razor. The police spokesman says the police should go lighter on Maoris who break the traffic laws compared to people of any other race. Allegedly we hear they have the discretion to do so for all races, but that's not written down. So, bullshit. This is race-based policing in favor of "Maoris"* and just further erodes any respect the rest of the community have for the police.

    * and of course, what is the side-of-the road definition of a Maori? imagine if the police had been told to go easy on white boy racers because they were white and had little money to spare for fines? There would be pearl-clutching in every marae... and court cases, because, RAAAAACISM. You really could not make this stuff believably up. But it is official Police Policy. And they are publicly doubling down on their racist stupidity with their press releases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
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    Yes, clearly driving without Blackface on is a Risk Factor. No doubt the next step is that ACC should reduce the levies for Maoris because to do otherwise, is unfair as they have less money to spare according to Wally Haumaha.

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