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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    how come he has a white neck? He ain't one of them dissin' blackie minstrels is he?
    you may have to colour your neck in with some boot polish before wearing this costume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDJ View Post
    There is no need to look for complex explanations when the simple ones will do. Occam's Razor. The police spokesman says the police should go lighter on Maoris who break the traffic laws compared to people of any other race. Allegedly we hear they have the discretion to do so for all races, but that's not written down. So, bullshit. This is race-based policing in favor of "Maoris"* and just further erodes any respect the rest of the community have for the police.

    * and of course, what is the side-of-the road definition of a Maori? imagine if the police had been told to go easy on white boy racers because they were white and had little money to spare for fines? There would be pearl-clutching in every marae... and court cases, because, RAAAAACISM. You really could not make this stuff believably up. But it is official Police Policy. And they are publicly doubling down on their racist stupidity with their press releases.
    So do you believe Racial Profiling is justified? Or should police and other agencies not be able to use it and have to "treat everyone equally".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    from a polytech tutor and personal friend

    'The reason put forward is that Maori have a different learning pedagogy (style) than others and need the extra time to focus. When we have 230 free positions for Maori and Pacifica students in engineering and can only fill half of them I have different views on their study and learning styles.!'
    Absolutely mate.

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    I'm keen to hear.

    My last work places, had specific guidelines and interventions on dealing with people from certain countries and "appearances", because they were considered "high risk".

    Racism, yay or nay?

    Justified if it makes country safer, yay or nay?

    Should we have one law for all then, yay or nay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mada View Post
    I'm keen to hear.

    My last work places, had specific guidelines and interventions on dealing with people from certain countries and "appearances", because they were considered "high risk".

    Racism, yay or nay?

    Justified if it makes country safer, yay or nay?

    Should we have one law for all then, yay or nay?
    Yes.

    No.

    Aye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Yes.

    No.

    Aye.

    Brb, just going to let in a few thousand Malaysians, Nigerians, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mada View Post
    Brb, just going to let in a few thousand Malaysians, Nigerians, etc.
    Fine, as long as they can support themselves, contribute to Kiwi society and are prepared to comply with NZ laws.

    The time to decide what shape your rules should be is before they're enacted, not after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mada View Post
    So do you believe Racial Profiling is justified? Or should police and other agencies not be able to use it and have to "treat everyone equally".
    Are you trying for self-parody? is the law not supposed to be applied equally regardless of race? Sheesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mada View Post
    Brb, just going to let in a few thousand Malaysians, Nigerians, etc.
    Nah ... the Aussie government paid the skippers of the refugee boats to go the other way.
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    "I can't emphasise enough to you that to single this out as a race issue in my view is totally mischievous," says Superintendent Haumaha.

    Well, sir, I can't emphasise enough to you that to not identify this as a race issue, is totally destructive in terms of police credibility. If you can't understand that, you don't deserve to be appointed to the level of responsibility that you are. You are in fact, an apologist for racism and you should resign. But I doubt that you will. Despite the fact you clearly lack the insight to appreciate that you are providing favourable consideration to a specific ethnic group, that is not being extended to any other ethnic group = defines racist practice. Since you don't understand that, you are not fit for purpose.

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    Here's an earlier "initiative"

    Police and local iwi have come up with a strategy they hope will reduce the victimisation, offending and road fatalities and injuries among Maori in Rotorua.

    The strategy (The Turning of the Tide - a Whanau Ora Crime and Crash Prevention Strategy), has been based on crime and crash plans drawn up by iwi across the country, Te Arawa among them, and was endorsed by iwi leaders nationwide.

    Mr Marshall said the aims were for a 10 per cent decrease in first-time Maori offenders, a 20 per cent decrease in repeat Maori victims and offenders, a 25 per cent decrease in (non-traffic) apprehensions of Maori that are resolved by prosecution and a 20 per cent drop in Maori casualties in fatal and serious crashes.

    Ngati Porou leader and Maori Focus Forum member Dr Apirana Mahuika believes the time is right for action.

    "Most Maori who are victims or who are directly involved in crime are under 25 years of age. With our population of young people growing, if we do nothing, then even more Maori will end up in hospitals, police cells, courts and prisons. We can't let that happen."

    - Rotorua Daily Post


    How about a novel suggestion: why do self-identifying Maori try, just, not, breaking the law? or at least, breaking the law at no greater rate of incidence than the rest of us? That would get the decrease you are looking for, Ngati Porou leader and Maori Focus Forum leader Dr Mahuika...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDJ View Post

    How about a novel suggestion: why do self-identifying Maori try, just, not, breaking the law? or at least, breaking the law at no greater rate of incidence than the rest of us? That would get the decrease you are looking for, Ngati Porou leader and Maori Focus Forum leader Dr Mahuika...
    Can't argue with that logic.

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    The moment that the Law explicitly treats someone different based solely on their race, is the moment that we have state enforced Racism.

    I weep for the 60 years of progress that we have lost.

    I only hope that SA will stop the ABs from touring there.
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    Whinging fucks.....

    is present situation ideal......?
    if you want the outcome to be diffferent,
    you could:

    do more of the same,
    or try something new...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RDJ View Post
    Are you trying for self-parody? is the law not supposed to be applied equally regardless of race? Sheesh.
    So you are saying that old white lady driving her beemer in Rems should be stopped at same frequency as young brown driver out South, despite one having a much higher risk of causing a fatal accident?


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