Is it time to lock up the Greenpeace terrorists?

[mashman]

And in a similar vein we should be more concerned about maintaining our rivers and lakes in a state that makes them safe to swim and fish in rather than further adding to their degradation by intensifying the dairy farming industry simply because we can make more money by doing so.

And that's where the whole thing turns to custard. Economy will take precedence every time

[Robert Taylor]

Maybe they should, and Scotland would have a nice income of the oil. Northern Ireland could be returned to its rightful owners and they could all get on.

As for saving the Environment, back in the early 50's London had coal fired power stations and coal heating.
Then they had a very nasty coal induced fog.
thousands dies or were affected. I lived in London in the 80's 90's and the air was fine.
Conclusion, they did something about it.
I was in China on business a few years back and the air was terrible.
They are very busy working for a living but at the cost of the environment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Smog

I do get the impression that Greenies don't have a huge grip on economics.

PS: My Classic BMW Racebike Ohlins rear and tweeked front end make for a very plush ride...even round Pukekohe goat track

Yes that's all very true, a classic case of how industrialisation starts and initially lays waste. I think we as New Zealanders have a very keen sense of how things should balance out ( if you take away the extremists ) At least I would grudgingly say of Greenpeace their members mostly are prepared to publicly stand up for who they are. Lucy Lawless being a prime example, true to her surname. Many people who habitate forums and snipe away behind a veil of protective pseudonyms could learn from that.
Off subject but a good many English people thought the Scottish referendum was gone about the wrong way. It was suggested that the referendum should have been held in England to decide if they actually wanted Scotland. And that if they decided they didn't to then turn off all economic aid and seal off the wall/ build it taller! When you talk of the relationship between Scotland and England over the centuries I often get the impression that many people look at it through rose tinted glasses, favouring the Scots and demonising the English. It would be fair to say that the Scots also have a lot to answer for.
Great to hear the suspension in the BM is working well. A bike design conceived under facist rule, the rear end products made in a socialist country and the front end components made in a very capitalist country!!!

[Swoop]

this stunt was most likely a staged event.

As I keep saying to you. You are a fucking moron.

Maybe they should, and Scotland would have a nice income of the oil.

Yes, they would. However they would have to pay for their own Defence force (army, navy and air) and also their own welfare system (among many others). Obviously their shipbuilding industry would go down the shitter due to zero contracts coming from British military contracts (a small issue that seemd to hit home at independence voting time...).

[yokel]

As I keep saying to you. You are a fucking moron.

say it one more time....please big boy.

seeing all the safety gear and the rather causal attitude of the cops says it all.

[puddytat]

the avatar explains a lot.......gay paranoid racist redneck......who's not good a taking his meds regular like.

[Tazz]

As I keep saying to you. You are a fucking moron.


Yes, they would. However they would have to pay for their own Defence force (army, navy and air) and also their own welfare system (among many others). Obviously their shipbuilding industry would go down the shitter due to zero contracts coming from British military contracts (a small issue that seemd to hit home at independence voting time...).

Well, they could start with leasing England the use of its (only?) nuclear sub base, that is in Scotland haha.

[mashman]

Well, they could start with leasing England the use of its nuclear sub base, that is in Scotland haha.

Scotland would become an instant nuclear world power. Probably target the english and push the button mind.

[imdying]

Exactly, take a leaf out of Maggie Thatchers book when that incarcerated Irish terrorist Bobbie Sands went on hunger strike ''Well let him do so''. He subsequently died from his own self induced starvation thereby also saving the British taxpayers a load of money to keep the dropkick.

Odd comparison... Bobbie Sands was both a patriot and a hero.

[Berries]

Odd comparison... Bobbie Sands was both a patriot and a hero.

And a crap decorator.

[RDJ]

And a terrorist. He was a PROVO (IRA) member. He was arrested and charged in October 1972 with possession of four handguns found in the house where he was staying. He was convicted in April 1973 & sentenced to five years imprisonment and released in April 1976. Upon his release from prison in 1976, he resumed his active role in the Provisional IRA. He and Joe McDonnell planned the October 1976 bombing of the Balmoral Furniture Company (i.e. a "soft" civilian) target in Dunmurry. The showroom was destroyed but as the IRA men left the scene there was a gun battle with the Royal Ulster Constabulary. Leaving behind two wounded, the other four (Sands, plus three others) tried to escape in a car, but were then arrested. That was how he ended up in gaol.

[Katman]

And a terrorist.

One man's terrorist is often another man's freedom fighter.

[RDJ]

Hmmm. I am not sure you can 'get' this but - when so-called freedom fighters bomb mothers and babies shopping at supermarkets the first words that come to mind are not 'freedom' and 'fighting' but murderous, morally bankrupt, evil, sadistic, terrorism. Clearly, you have a different perspective. I could have introduced you to some victims at the time but on reflection, probably better not to have done so. You would have very likely made it worse for them.

[Katman]

Hmmm. I am not sure you can 'get' this but - when so-called freedom fighters bomb mothers and babies shopping at supermarkets the first words that come to mind are not 'freedom' and 'fighting' but murderous, morally bankrupt, evil, sadistic, terrorism. Clearly, you have a different perspective. I could have introduced you to some victims at the time but on reflection, probably better not to have done so. You would have very likely made it worse for them.

Because the 'good guys' have never killed mothers and babies shopping at supermarkets, right?

[98tls]

Hmmm. I am not sure you can 'get' this but - when so-called freedom fighters bomb mothers and babies shopping at supermarkets the first words that come to mind are not 'freedom' and 'fighting' but murderous, morally bankrupt, evil, sadistic, terrorism. Clearly, you have a different perspective. I could have introduced you to some victims at the time but on reflection, probably better not to have done so. You would have very likely made it worse for them.

People fighting for "so called freedom" have been bombing mothers and babies for a very long time,chances are your related to one or more of em along the way.

[Katman]

People fighting for "so called freedom" have been bombing mothers and babies for a very long time,chances are your related to one or more of em along the way.

I wonder how many American drones have killed mothers and babies.