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    Brough Superior

    The Brough ridden by J McWilliams last year in Moto2 had a funky front end. Probably very close to ones pictured in this thread already. Haven't heard if they're running this year or not? Maybe I'll do a search...
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    Found this site. But can't find any mention of anything happening this year.

    http://www.brough-superior.com/ws/fr...pe=navigation1
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    Quote Originally Posted by manxkiwi View Post
    Found this site. But can't find any mention of anything happening this year.

    http://www.brough-superior.com/ws/fr...pe=navigation1
    Am i the only one who thinks this Brough
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    looks A bit like this, suspension and top of fairing aside.1997
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    http://www.odd-bike.com/2014/07/hunw...op-aussie.html
    To tell you the truth the 1997 Hallam looks more modern other than the seat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manxkiwi View Post
    The Brough ridden by J McWilliams last year in Moto2 had a funky front end. Probably very close to ones pictured in this thread already. Haven't heard if they're running this year or not? Maybe I'll do a search...
    The Brough Superior Moto2 is a full carbon fibre monocoque, a proper one that incorporates the fuel tank, not like the Ducati Panigale. The front end is an A arm where the bottom triple clamp would be with cartridge type forks.

    Biggest problem they had with it during the one Moto2 race it did was the fuel map.

    I don't think they're back this year. Pretty sure they're developing and testing based on the feedback from the Moto2 race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Am i the only one who thinks this Brough
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    looks A bit like this, suspension and top of fairing aside.1997
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    http://www.odd-bike.com/2014/07/hunw...op-aussie.html
    To tell you the truth the 1997 Hallam looks more modern other than the seat.
    Other than the huge, crazy looking carbon fibre upper the Hunwick Hallam was disappointingly conventional chassis-wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Other than the huge, crazy looking carbon fibre upper the Hunwick Hallam was disappointingly conventional chassis-wise.
    Ask Rob syphilis.
    I only posted it for way it looked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
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    AND sum oar
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    All these and Moore From Michael Moores website

    http://www.eurospares.com/graphics.htm#Tool Stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    AND sum oar
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    All these and Moore From Michael Moores website

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    It'd probably work even better if the front swing arm was entirely one sided rather than crossing in front of the engine. The front wheel could be brought back a bit closer to the engine then. As it is it looks like the weight is biased towards the back end quite a bit more than it should be.
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    This guy is doing things differently. He's made a Hossack front end for his CBR1000RR that he races. However, as with most others, he's finding that the Hossack is too stiff laterally and the suspension and chassis aren't absorbing bumps while leant over. The solution all the factories are using is tuned flex of the entire chassis. This guy is using a front swing arm that allows the front end to deflect sideways and is controlling it with a coil over damper.

    https://www.facebook.com/Suspension-...2479384510016/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    There's a thread on different/unusual engines so I thought I'd start one on different chassis.

    Ray Van Steenwyk has come up with a different take on hub centre steering.

    All of the suspension is moved behind the wheel (in the attachment it's the red bits) while the triangle that holds the front wheel is rigid front to rear but the top part twists to steer (blue bit).

    It has more steering lock than other hub centre steer designs because the swing arm is mounted high on the frame leaving more clearance for the wheel.

    Looks like the biggest problem with it, other than complexity and space it takes up, is that they're eliminating the weight transfer involved with braking but weight transfer means grip. That's one of the fundamental differences between cars and bikes, the weight transference. Not understanding that is why many before, such as the Elf GP bikes, have failed.

    Attachment 313150

    https://www.motoinno.com.au/home.html
    I know it's a prototype but all of the weight is on the rear wheel and that makes it look wrong.

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    Seems Alan Cathcart likes that front end

    https://nebula.wsimg.com/28022a65577...&alloworigin=1
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    Custom bike builders love doing different stuff with chassis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Custom bike builders love doing different stuff with chassis

    https://igcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.ne...18009318_n.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Seems Alan Cathcart likes that front end

    https://nebula.wsimg.com/28022a65577...&alloworigin=1
    Well, if Crashcart likes it.. that means it is dooomed..

    As for Al's comment that Britten was the only Kiwi to build an ' unconventional' bike chassis..
    .. the likes of Roberts, Mc Intosh et al, would, ah, Begg to differ..

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