Good catch

**mada** · 15th July 2015, 19:15

Offender will probably get a slap on the wrist

, but good work to the officer managing to apprehend him on foot in all the get up that he would have been wearing.

The attempted strangling of a police officer on motorcycle patrol in South Auckland has raised concerns about under-equipped staff working alone.

The incident happened around 3pm on Tuesday, after the officer chased the fleeing driver in an allegedly stolen vehicle, which had failed to stop in Manukau.

The vehicle was abandoned in Otara, and the man fled on foot.

He was then chased by the officer and a struggle followed, during which it was alleged the man tried to strangle the officer.

After a brief further foot chase, the officer was able to apprehend and restrain the man until help arrived.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/7026...aises-concerns

**tigertim20** · 15th July 2015, 20:01

more selective reporting designed to favour the 'give cops guns' movement?

**caseye** · 15th July 2015, 20:16

Originally Posted by tigertim20

more selective reporting designed to favour the 'give cops guns' movement?

In Cahoots with the NZPA's Mr whatshisface.
Police should always be in pairs these days, as for arming with anything other than a PR 24 or good old fashioned log of wood, Individual Constable's decision to up skill to whatever weapon they think appropriate, is what I'd be comfortable with.

**Swoop** · 15th July 2015, 20:22

Originally Posted by caseye

In Cahoots with the NZPA's Mr whatshisface.
Police should always be in pairs these days, as for arming with anything other than a PR 24 or good old fashioned log of wood, Individual Constable's decision to up skill to whatever weapon they think appropriate, is what I'd be comfortable with.

Yup, I'm happy with that concept as well.
Several friends have stated that when it is necessary for plod to be armed, then they will do the same.
Obviously it isn't safe out there for cops, so blatantly it is not safe forcitizens' either.

These friends are quite law-abiding people, not your run-of-the-mill gangsters.

**tigertim20** · 15th July 2015, 21:12

ill support arming the boys in blue when they support my purchase of an AR-15 for home protection...

catch 22 though innit

**bogan** · 15th July 2015, 21:43

Originally Posted by tigertim20

catch 22 though innit

Harder than it sounds, those little fuckers still go right quick...

**98tls** · 15th July 2015, 21:51

Never understood the internet uproar over cops being armed... ie so its ok for everyone else that chooses to be armed to be so but not cops

**Berries** · 15th July 2015, 22:58

Originally Posted by tigertim20

catch 22 though innit

Is that one of them foreign air rifles?

**Banditbandit** · 24th July 2015, 13:36

Originally Posted by 98tls

Never understood the internet uproar over cops being armed... ie so its ok for everyone else that chooses to be armed to be so but not cops

It's NOT Ok for everyone else to be armed .. it's ikllegal unless you are hunting or at a gun club, or the weapons are stored.

And the cops are fucking useless with guns .. killed an innocent bystander on the Dorkland motorway - missed a rottie when they were firing automatic weapons ...

When I was in Hawke's Bay a cop went to a house in Bay view investigating a complaint about a dangerous dog .. the dog ran at him up the driveway, the cop pulled his pistol, fired and missed the dog at a range of seven feet (I measured it). The bullet bounced off the driveway, went through the window of the house and into a wall above a couch where a baby was sleeping ..

many incidents - I would not feel safe with armed police around. I don't trust them

And if the police get arms then it will start an arms race with the crims - and the crims will win that race because there are no rules holding them back at all ..

**Swoop** · 24th July 2015, 14:16

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

And the cops are fucking useless with guns ...

Very true! The scarier part is what ISN'T known by the public or media.
The dangerous situations perpetrated by the blue gang whilst handling, training, re-training is diabolical.

**jasonu** · 24th July 2015, 14:33

They should have strangled his patrol bike. What an ugly pile!!!

**jasonu** · 24th July 2015, 14:40

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

It's NOT Ok for everyone else to be armed .. it's ikllegal unless you are hunting or at a gun club, or the weapons are stored.

And the cops are fucking useless with guns .. killed an innocent bystander on the Dorkland motorway - missed a rottie when they were firing automatic weapons ...

When I was in Hawke's Bay a cop went to a house in Bay view investigating a complaint about a dangerous dog .. the dog ran at him up the driveway, the cop pulled his pistol, fired and missed the dog at a range of seven feet (I measured it). The bullet bounced off the driveway, went through the window of the house and into a wall above a couch where a baby was sleeping ..

many incidents - I would not feel safe with armed police around. I don't trust them

And if the police get arms then it will start an arms race with the crims - and the crims will win that race because there are no rules holding them back at all ..

You are right re the plod being useless with guns.
But in their defense, unless they are practicing very regularly with live ammo in realistic scenarios, when it comes time to actually use a firearm in a real situation where you get maybe a second or two to decide what is the right thing to do, never mind what the media or arm chair experts might say if you get it wrong, it isn't as easy as it looks on TV cop shows.

**James Deuce** · 24th July 2015, 15:21

Originally Posted by jasonu

it isn't as easy as it looks on TV cop shows.

To be fair, it's easier for US-based cops because they don't give a fuck about "innocent" bystanders. The higher the ratio of rounds fired to deaths, the bigger next the budget for next year's ammo.

**jasonu** · 24th July 2015, 16:22

Originally Posted by James Deuce

To be fair, it's easier for US-based cops because they don't give a fuck about "innocent" bystanders. The higher the ratio of rounds fired to deaths, the bigger next the budget for next year's ammo.

Please remind me what planet you are from again...

**Akzle** · 24th July 2015, 16:28

Originally Posted by jasonu

You are right re the plod being useless with guns.
But in their defense, unless they are practicing very regularly with live ammo in realistic scenarios, when it comes time to actually use a firearm in a real situation where you get maybe a second or two to decide what is the right thing to do, never mind what the media or arm chair experts might say if you get it wrong, it isn't as easy as it looks on TV cop shows.

the average blow in nz who wants to hold a pistol license will fire more rounds in a weekend than the cops do in a year of 'training'