One for ye olde pharts?

**george formby** · 23rd July 2015, 18:17

Originally Posted by husaberg

..................tish tish why can't they do something like these

Ahhhhhhhhhh, you had to do that, didn't you? I look at pictures of TDR's as part of foreplay. Want. Needs to sit between the DT and TDM. Full house.

**husaberg** · 23rd July 2015, 18:21

Originally Posted by george formby

Ahhhhhhhhhh, you had to do that, didn't you? I look at pictures of TDR's as part of foreplay. Want. Needs to sit between the DT and TDM. Full house.

Nah a TRX850 in Over trim, with YZF750 suspension front and rear.

**george formby** · 23rd July 2015, 19:04

Yes but... Nup. Not for the roads around here. TDR with decent suspension, pipe, brakes and tires. Ning ning for the win.
Having said that, I would love a good fang on a TRX. The 850 motor sounds grouse with, er, less restrictive pipes. And I'm sure they are more agile than the TDM.

With regard to the retro Yammie in question, how does it ride? By all accounts the motor is a peach. I think Yamaha are going down the Ducati/Triumph road and lining up a lot of variants around the triple and twin. The MT07 Tracer is tickling my fancy. Niche market retro exercises considerably less so.

**husaberg** · 23rd July 2015, 19:22

Originally Posted by george formby

Yes but... Nup. Not for the roads around here. TDR with decent suspension, pipe, brakes and tires. Ning ning for the win.
Having said that, I would love a good fang on a TRX. The 850 motor sounds grouse with, er, less restrictive pipes. And I'm sure they are more agile than the TDM.

With regard to the retro Yammie in question, how does it ride? By all accounts the motor is a peach. I think Yamaha are going down the Ducati/Triumph road and lining up a lot of variants around the triple and twin. The MT07 Tracer is tickling my fancy. Niche market retro exercises considerably less so.

Yes but the retro ride is irrelevant its how it looks. LOL.
Someone on here had a tarted up TRX850 can't remember who it was.
Pretty sure the later TDM's also had the 270 motor?

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Originally Posted by carburator

yes they do, infact the over racing 15 bikes where that setup, three came to NZ
I had one, the R6_KID has got one and the other ? who knows where that went.

I built up one for road use with the YZF750 setup and gearbox ( trx was 5 speed )
not a rocketship like a modern r1 but made a lot of people guess on the road.

Im currently in the throws ( either I sell all the last of the goodies ) or Im going to make
someone local to me with a 09 r1 cross plane chassis a offer and put 09R1 running
gear on a trxframe but do the early r6 tail setup as the bum on a trx is not
lady like at all...

**jim.cox** · 23rd July 2015, 20:14

Originally Posted by george formby

With regard to the retro Yammie in question, how does it ride? .

A mate of mine has spent a shitload on suspension bits getting his MT09 to handle - apparently the motor is good once you get the right injection mapping (more $$$) but Yam have been shaving the money a bit close on the cycleparts.

**pritch** · 23rd July 2015, 22:49

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

as Moi says the Guzzi V7 series are real retro - I want the cafe racer one.

(And I hope that 'one for ye olde pharts doesn't mean it's SLOW !!!)

Well the Guzzi is "real retro" it's true, and that extends to the preformance figures.

The MT-07 engine makes fully 50% more ponies than the Guzzi. (I'm referring to the real thing, not the LAMS version of the Yamaha sold here.) So while it may not be the fastest thing around it should be in a different class to the Guzzi.

If it is imported here I suppose we could all go and test ride both bikes and reinforce our prejudices.

**Voltaire** · 24th July 2015, 07:00

Originally Posted by pritch

Well the Guzzi is "real retro" it's true, and that extends to the preformance figures.

The MT-07 engine makes fully 50% more ponies than the Guzzi. (I'm referring to the real thing, not the LAMS version of the Yamaha sold here.) So while it may not be the fastest thing around it should be in a different class to the Guzzi.

If it is imported here I suppose we could all go and test ride both bikes and reinforce our prejudices.

Prejudices....none of that round here

, I know what the Guzzi retros look like but no idea what a MT-07 is, the Yamaha above made my eyes hurt.

Power.... I don't need it. The 72 BMW track bike puts out about 65 BHP and is good for over 200 kmph, for road use I have a 70 HP 900ss and all that V twin ( L twin) goodness.

**pritch** · 24th July 2015, 09:38

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Prejudices....none of that round here

, I know what the Guzzi retros look like but no idea what a MT-07 is, the Yamaha above made my eyes hurt.

Power.... I don't need it. The 72 BMW track bike puts out about 65 BHP and is good for over 200 kmph, for road use I have a 70 HP 900ss and all that V twin ( L twin) goodness.

The Yamah MT-07 is the model from which that retro variant was sourced. BIKE magazine had the MT-07 as BOTY; it was fun, frugal, and was priced so keenly the competition had to lower their prices. We get a smaller engined LAMS version but the original makes 75bhp. The Guzzi makes 50.

I too might be able to live with 75 horses in a light enough package, but 50 seems just one stop short of an Indian Enfield and that's just too retro thanks.

**Voltaire** · 24th July 2015, 11:42

Depends what you want really, I'm more into mid range stomp up to about 160 kmph.

My 750 Norton Commando has about 50 HP and only a 4 speed gearbox but the torque is impressive, especially in a bike that weighs in at

about 175 kgs and feels like a 250 to ride.

I haven't ridden a 750 Guzzi but I'd imagine with a V twin it would be very similar.

**Banditbandit** · 24th July 2015, 11:47

Originally Posted by pritch

Well the Guzzi is "real retro" it's true, and that extends to the preformance figures.

Yeah .. so what ??? As a salesman said when I was looking at a bike - "It's not a 250 k plus monster "

My response was "I've already got one of those .. that's not what I'm looking for ... "

**awa355** · 24th July 2015, 15:21

Retro or brand new design. I just like top gear grunt from around 70-130kph. If I had a bike capable of over 200kph I would never get to those speeds and retro was never about top end speed.