Poor Old Cecil.

[Swoop]

Modern hunting bows are not shaved down broom handles...
http://www.skinnymoose.com/mostlyarc...a-hunting-bow/

Yes, quite different. Even with a hunting head a lion in close would still travel a bit of distance with a bit of a grump on regarding the owner of the arrow.
Dangerous game does not get treated lightly. I have a distant cousin in the 1900's who was killed by an elephant. I doubt cussies' bang-stick was effective enough...


I was rather surprised with those compound bows, as a family member was into that. Weirdly, the pull weight got lighter the further back it was pulled. Most interesting it was!

[Banditbandit]

arrows, esp broadheads, dont kill by hydrostatic shock ('impact force'), rather, massive haemorhaggings. A 125gr 3/4" broadhead with a chest shot will often drill holes through even red deer, leaving a wound channel some square feet, to bleed out of...

(with muchum practice, i'd trust an arrow to 50. A pro, maybe 70.)

I've dabbled in Medieval re-enactment, but truthfully, they were only 20-30 pound draws (practice bows) with light weight arrows.

However I did see demonstration of a Longbow that was I think a 90 pound draw - and it is scary to see a bodkin punch through plate Armour...

Even scarier when a proper English Long-bowmen would be pulling 150-200 pound draw weight (estimated)

I own and hunted with bows ... (too old and broken to carry big animals out of the bush now - that's why I fish ...) I didn't use compound bows - but American Indian flat bows .. yes, I have put an arrow right through a deer - the deer walked over, sniffed the arrow, then fell over dead.

I would not pull and fire at an animal more than 20 yards away - as there is no gaurantee of a kill (well, there is no gaurantee of a kill even with a gun - you can miss) ... but the chances of only wounding the animal are that much higher ..

I've only used an English longbow once (belonged a mate) - it was awesome ...

Yeah - arrows kil by massive haemoraging .. in our bush the legal requiremernts for hunting arrows .. this is to assist with a major haemoraging (and also to prevent bow hunters going after our birds)

Bow hunting minimum criteria
Minimum drawing weight factor 15 kg (35 lb).
Minimum diameter of two opposing blades is 22 mm (7/8 in).
Only non-barbed hunting arrows are permissible.
Arrows with any poison, explosive or other chemical substance on or in the head or shaft are not permitted.

Crossbow minimum criteria
Minimum drawing weight factor 68 kg ( 150 lb).
Minimum diameter of multi-bladed head is 22 mm (7/8 in).
Minimum length of complete arrow is 400 mm (16 in).
Only non-barbed hunting arrows are permissible.
Hunting arrows must not be placed into a loaded crossbow under any circumstances unless target is located. Crossbow must have a positive mechanical safety device in working order.
Arrows with any poison, explosive or other chemical substance on or in the head or shaft are not permitted.

[Banditbandit]

Interesting side note - In Medieval times, one of the tests of a Knights skill and bravery was to hunt a Boar on foot, with only a Sword.

So .... our pig hunters do it on foot with a bayonet ... what's the wimpy 'sword' shit ???

[Banditbandit]

. I used the 42lb with rabbit piles to kill rabbits. It's a flat disc on the end of the arrow. It smashes a rabbit.

I used target piles on rabbits - yes, the rabbit piles smash rabbits - wastes a lot of meat in the process ..

[James Deuce]

I used target piles on rabbits - yes, the rabbit piles smash rabbits - wastes a lot of meat in the process ..

Not allowed to eat them. Wife can't cope. Sigh.

[Banditbandit]

Not allowed to eat them. Wife can't cope. Sigh.

Mine eats wild food ... in fact, the first time I cooked dinner for her I accidently served her wild goat (I thought it was hogget) .. after the meal she complimented my cooking and I confessed it was goat .. her response? "I know ..."

I kept that one ... she complains when there is not enough wild food in the freezer ...

[Akzle]

130-200 pound draw weights is where the real men are.

Now show me to my French enemy!

a six foot bow, when the average anglo was five foot tall.
it's a straight stick before they draw it...

much impressive.

btw 30lb is for bitches.

I used a 42lb draw composite (ash core, willow outers, fibre glass finished) recurve I built myself

i love it when you talk dirty to me.

(check out the SGH (small game heads) bit of thwack in the middle with springloaded barbs around. snots possums cold out of trees and grabs kukupu// errr... feral chickens pretty good too.

I have a distant cousin in the 1900's who was killed by an elephant. I doubt cussies' bang-stick was effective enough...

most people shoot to high, so i hear tell. the brain stis quite low in the head (and is quite small) a 375 will do it. (lawd i want a 375) but i think they prefer 458 nowdays.

orr 700NE

[awa355]

Can you believe this drivel?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/africa/...the-lions-cubs



Anyway, I thought Cecil had a black mane.

[ellipsis]

...I have killed most pigs I have encountered with a knife, where do I get my Knighthood...I shot arrows at bails as a sport a long while ago...I was a member of the Nonsuch Bowmans Assoc...the oldest bow shooting club, assoc, in existence. Henry (the eighth one) formed it so they could look after his Welsh arse...we shot 43 to 48 lb recurves...a full tournament of 1200 flights was a bit like a six hour endurance race...there were a bunch of big hairyarses that could actually hold,aim and accurately shoot a traditional longbow...90 to 100 lb...but not for long...half tournaments were not so bad, but the arms and shoulders still hurt some time later...I got really fucking good...as much to technique as strength...my first few hundred flights really fucked with my face and skin and also the skin off the inside wrist had to toughen up, big time...I just have a few 8 foot pointy sticks know...

[scumdog]

a six foot bow, when the average anglo was five foot tall.
it's a straight stick before they draw it...

much impressive.

btw 30lb is for bitches.


i love it when you talk dirty to me.

(check out the SGH (small game heads) bit of thwack in the middle with springloaded barbs around. snots possums cold out of trees and grabs kukupu// errr... feral chickens pretty good too.

most people shoot to high, so i hear tell. the brain stis quite low in the head (and is quite small) a 375 will do it. (lawd i want a 375) but i think they prefer 458 nowdays.

orr 700NE

Pfft, 7X57 is all you need - just ask Karamojo Bell!

(OK, ya can't ask him 'cos he's dead - from old age I believe)

[scumdog]

Can you believe this drivel?


Anyway, I thought Cecil had a black mane.

Yeah, what a load of sentimental emotional claptrap.

[oldrider]

Anyway, I thought Cecil had a black mane.

Well historic photographic evidence showed the world that a certain "nude" Balvegus police officer was sporting a black mane when he upheld the law!

Rumour has it that his mane was the only thing that has "held up" for many years but he is optimistic that change (out of the blue) is imminent!

Only the names have been changed to protect the innocent in this report!

[husaberg]

Cecil update.................still dead
https://youtu.be/GxwoxWOd_dc

[Banditbandit]

Cecil update.................still dead
https://youtu.be/GxwoxWOd_dc

You're a sick man ..

[husaberg]

You say that like its a bad thing
They issued permits to kill bloody heaps of Lions each year, Only thing that is extraordinary here is this one that was killed was semi famous.
I don't think hunting lions is particularly that clever or should be done at all unless the population is over crowded.
But he is dead and likely to remain that way for the foreseeable future at least.