Texting and driving

[Shaun Harris]

its more complex than just talkin...when you are talking to someone right next to each other there are other senses and signals that make the conversation understandable,pauses etc are tolerated as you negotiate a rounda bout etc...on a phone its different, its harder to make sense of what the other one is saying,because part of the information is missing.

What you have just described to me, is a business/work talk discussion, for it to be that demanding and concentration taxing, so in this case pull over, simple. we started talking at what age in life, how much dam concentration does it take. manual cars, req 1 hand to change gear, police use phones, fire people use phones, ambulance use bla bla bla, and what makes any of those drivers safer than us, NOTHING. In fact, they are putting them selves and others at risk even more by doing so, as they will be concentrating on driving, talking, and the case they may be attending.If ou cannot drive and talk safely, do not drive or talk.

Hand held Texting, once again NO.

[scumdog]

If ou cannot drive and talk safely, do not drive or talk.

Hand held Texting, once again NO.

Too many out there can barely safely drive and breathe at the same time when driving - let alone text too..

[swbarnett]

its more complex than just talkin...when you are talking to someone right next to each other there are other senses and signals that make the conversation understandable,pauses etc are tolerated as you negotiate a rounda bout etc...on a phone its different, its harder to make sense of what the other one is saying,because part of the information is missing.

Even if all this were true (I'll concede that it is to some degree) as long as driving is the first priority there is no danger. I've left more than one person hanging because of this.

[swbarnett]

What you have just described to me, is a business/work talk discussion, ...

I agree wholeheartedly with all you said.

I would add that it matters not the type of conversation as long as it always takes second place.

[Shaun Harris]

I agree wholeheartedly with all you said.

I would add that it matters not the type of conversation as long as it always takes second place.

I am assuming of course, but I would guess a lot of the full on NO posts in this thread, have had a bad experience from another party doing this, so do understand where they are coming from though. As well as some of them, just have not thought it through honestly, and let there fingers do the talking first. yes, men can Multi task hahahahahaha Fuk wits are just that, and crap will always go down in life. Identify, minimise, isolate. be mature enough to make your own safety decision out there on the roads please folks.

[Shaun Harris]

Out of curiosity, how many in this thread eat food whilst driving?

[Scuba_Steve]

Out of curiosity, how many in this thread eat food whilst driving?

I eats feed, talks on phone, drinks drink & texts whiles driving (I have old skool & couldn't/wouldn't do with smarty)... however all these get thrown at passengers or across the seat if I think I need more than 1 hand & they all take third priority to driving.
Only time I've had a near incident of my own doing was back as a teen & that was cause I was playing with the [still allowed] radio trying to find a station that would play tolerable music... Radio's still remain 1 of the most dangerous distractions in cars, luckily I learn 1st time & fucking pull over to play with that now

[Tazz]

Even if all this were true (I'll concede that it is to some degree) as long as driving is the first priority there is no danger. I've left more than one person hanging because of this.

A distraction is a distraction though. It can be more or less of a distraction. The only time where the your complete attention to prioritising your driving over talking on the phone will occur....is if you're not talking on the phone at all
In three or four seconds you might spend accessing your long term memory for something you're yakking about with dear old dad, a lot can happen on the road.

However, the exact same thing can be said for the 3-4-5 seconds you might spend checking your rear vision mirror

There is also the fact the a lot of what you see, you're not seeing because your brain is showing you what it EXPECTS to see. It has been a long time since I've read anything about this so I'm pretty rusty but here's a quick link:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1079232/

It is yet another layer to get through before you can react to a situation, and there is other stuff about it on here already I think.

There is no way you can NOT be distracted by a phone call, hands free or not, and it is a fact that a phone call IS more distracting than a conversation with someone in the vehicle.
These are scientific facts, not government propaganda, the propaganda when they try and draw a line through the middle of fact and enforce laws relating to it.

Just to be clear again, I'm not some Nazi that thinks no one should talk on the phone in the car ever, I just like to be able to make my own educated risk decisions about what I do (when I can be arsed) rather than rely on half baked laws, rules and regulations to dictate my life, but the fact is there that it is a distraction regardless of the law for only handhelds (once again showing how fucking useless a lot of laws/rules/lawmakers are).

Out of curiosity, how many in this thread eat food whilst driving?

Almost every time I'm in a car I have some shapes or scroggin to nibble on next to the gear lever, especially when driving late at night. Not exactly as distracting as trying to wolf down a bowl of soup or bag of pistachios but still a 'risk'. If I die while scoffing some cheese and bacon shapes at least I'll die happy.

[caspernz]

I am assuming of course, but I would guess a lot of the full on NO posts in this thread, have had a bad experience from another party doing this, so do understand where they are coming from though. As well as some of them, just have not thought it through honestly, and let there fingers do the talking first. yes, men can Multi task hahahahahaha Fuk wits are just that, and crap will always go down in life. Identify, minimise, isolate. be mature enough to make your own safety decision out there on the roads please folks.

Into my third decade of trucking, on three continents. Any comms device can become a distraction. If I had a dollar for every near miss or prang I've seen as a result of someone who thought he/she was better than the next person...

Heck, some folks can't even walk and talk on the phone...

https://youtu.be/FtFKRYgtamk

[Big Dog]

Slightly different tack. Who here has never told a passenger the conversation has to wait?
I do all the time.
If it is distracting me I nip out in the bud.
Same with the hands free. If it requires more than a yes, no or maybe I tell them I will call back or pull over.

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[Maha]

Out of curiosity, how many in this thread eat food whilst driving?

That's not illegal, but to answer your question, it's difficult enough eating food off plate while watching tv in ones leather recliner let alone adding a steering wheel into the mix. We have never allowed eating in the car. We don't even have sounds on to be honest, we know how to talk to each other.

[swbarnett]

Out of curiosity, how many in this thread eat food whilst driving?

Depends on what. The messier the less likely I am to eat it while driving.

[swbarnett]

A distraction is a distraction though.

Agreed. What I'm saying is that a conversation does not have to be a distraction at all.

The only time where the your complete attention to prioritising your driving over talking on the phone will occur....is if you're not talking on the phone at all

I take it you don't use your sub-conscious mind to drive? I always give complete priority to driving over anything else. That doesn't mean that my whole mind is required to drive.

In three or four seconds you might spend accessing your long term memory for something you're yakking about with dear old dad, a lot can happen on the road.

Can't say that I've ever had that problem. My memory is quicker than that (I either remember it or I don't).

However, the exact same thing can be said for the 3-4-5 seconds you might spend checking your rear vision mirror

No driver should ever need more than a quick glance in the mirror.

There is no way you can NOT be distracted by a phone call, hands free or not,

As long as you keep your priorities straight it doesn't need to be distracting. Just ask a sniper.

and it is a fact that a phone call IS more distracting than a conversation with someone in the vehicle.

Maybe for some but certainly not for all.

These are scientific facts,

Until some new study says otherwise. Science is not that precise on most things.

[Shaun Harris]

whilst I see the point behind these laws, I still say there is a time and place for every thing. the main problem is people not seeing that and acting to that policy. Typical kiwi these days again, it is all just me me me me me and F you all, I HAVE THE WRITE TO. We all have the responsobillity to reccognize we are operating a potentual KILLING machine, and it is actually a privilledge, not a write to be on the roads!

[Moi]

That's not illegal, but to answer your question, it's difficult enough eating food off plate while watching tv in ones leather recliner let alone adding a steering wheel into the mix. We have never allowed eating in the car. We don't even have sounds on to be honest, we know how to talk to each other.

I always thought that was the reason we had picnics... and for us oldies Thermettes...

... latest picnics we have had were beside the old moat near the Menenpoorte in Iepers and at the Lochnagar Crater near La Boisselle in the Somme.