Texting and driving

[Tazz]

An interesting point. People used to hold their phones up in the driving line of vision. Now the hard-core txters hold their phones surreptitiously in their laps, to avoid being sprung.

Yep. One of the by-products of using law enforcement to fix 'problems' in place of better education on the matter/s.
People still do it and often in a more dangerous fashion than before. Apart from truckies. Cabs are too high to see into so they don't give a fark

[Shaun Harris]

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I just blocked him after his rant, Maybe one day he will be a man and come see me to talk about it, ( I said Talk, not fisty cuffs) to get to know the current real Shaun Harris, instead of the fucked up child teenager that his mates refer too

[Maha]

I too have used it for similar reasons only, as that to me is extremelly dangerous. I am not a police man, but this person was a potentuall family killer

2nd time we have used *555 last time we covered close to 60 kms before the cops caught up to us. Saturday it was about 5 kms when we saw him waiting.

[Shaun Harris]

2nd time we have used *555 last time we covered close to 60 kms before the cops caught up to us. Saturday it was about 5 kms when we saw him waiting.

Doing it out of safety for others is cool, ie HSE Identify, isolate, eliminate! but people that do it just to be like a police man, really are quite sad imo

[BMWST?]

the point is that texting and talking on a phone is distracting.And yes changing radio stations,gps s and even talking to a passenger is also distracting.But talking on a phone,esp if it is a complex topic is MORE distracting imho.If you think that you are not distracted whilst doing so you are wrong.
Pay attention to actually driving your car and you will have fewer accidents.Too many people are "passengers" who "guide" their car from one place to the next with absolutely no real involvent in DRIVING

[swbarnett]

Some reckon they're so good at txting, they don't need to look at the phone when txt-driving.

I wonder, do their incoming texts come in braille?

[Tazz]

the point is that texting and talking on a phone is distracting.And yes changing radio stations,gps s and even talking to a passenger is also distracting.But talking on a phone,esp if it is a complex topic is MORE distracting imho.If you think that you are not distracted whilst doing so you are wrong.
Pay attention to actually driving your car and you will have fewer accidents.Too many people are "passengers" who "guide" their car from one place to the next with absolutely no real involvent in DRIVING

So texting and talking are two completely different things, and everyone has different abilities in managing tasks at hand, however if you look at some of the studies holding your hand up to your ear and yakking away is AS BAD as hands free kits are because the actual distraction is the conversation with someone outside of the vehicle, not the driving one handed aspect which people assume is the problem because that's what they target.
Pretty sure this shit is all on here somewhere already. Usually the fact that CB and PRS equipment that requires physically input to operate yet are used legally by road users and law enforcement comes up as a contradiction to the fact it is for your safety that they are outlawed. Nabbing phone users is easy policing.

Eating is also the same level distraction as the conversation with someone out of the vehicle jazz.

This is why instead of tickets for Africa that mean and do diddly squat, people need to know their own level of ability. imo.

[scumdog]

This is why instead of tickets for Africa that mean and do diddly squat, people need to know their own level of ability. imo.

And if a lot DID 'know their own level of ability' they would also know they shouldn't bloody drive - ever

[BMWST?]

So texting and talking are two completely different things, and everyone has different abilities in managing tasks at hand, however if you look at some of the studies holding your hand up to your ear and yakking away is AS BAD as hands free kits are because the actual distraction is the conversation with someone outside of the vehicle, not the driving one handed aspect which people assume is the problem because that's what they target.
Pretty sure this shit is all on here somewhere already. Usually the fact that CB and PRS equipment that requires physically input to operate yet are used legally by road users and law enforcement comes up as a contradiction to the fact it is for your safety that they are outlawed. Nabbing phone users is easy policing.

Eating is also the same level distraction as the conversation with someone out of the vehicle jazz.

This is why instead of tickets for Africa that mean and do diddly squat, people need to know their own level of ability. imo.

agree its the distraction aspect that they should be concentrationg on phone /text/radio/heater...PAY ATTENTION TO THE DANGEROUS TASK AT HAND

[Gremlin]

Too true! I'm sure I am seeing increasing numbers of rear-endings when travelling into and out of Auckland these days.

They're failing at basic stuff. Inattentive, poor following distance, not looking far enough ahead and surveying the environment (like a car next to me today speeding up, almost passing me, while failing to see their lane was completely stopped less than 100m ahead... so on hard with the brakes.

Then there is the Auckland classic... lane diving - and here's why you shouldn't:

[Tazz]

And if a lot DID 'know their own level of ability' they would also know they shouldn't bloody drive - ever

How do they have a license then? If people that thick are getting through, there is a problem with the system.
I mean there is probably all sorts of problems with them too, but the system would seem like an easier fix?

On the flip side some people have very different levels and speeds of comprehension and absorb data very differently. Society still doesn't know how to handle dyslexic and dyspraxic peeps.

[caspernz]

Maybe a bit of reverse psychology is in order?

Some time ago I made the comment at work that the action doesn't start until I get there, so don't get all uppety about me leaving my cellphone off while I'm trucking along (like company policy tells me to) as I'm doing something more important (driving) than yakking to someone in an office...and someone made the inference that I thought I was too important to have my phone on whilst driving...

Remember when only important folks had a cellphone, whereas now if you're important enough you don't? Your assistant answers it for you...

[george formby]

Maybe a bit of reverse psychology is in order?

Some time ago I made the comment at work that the action doesn't start until I get there, so don't get all uppety about me leaving my cellphone off while I'm trucking along (like company policy tells me to) as I'm doing something more important (driving) than yakking to someone in an office...and someone made the inference that I thought I was too important to have my phone on whilst driving...

Remember when only important folks had a cellphone, whereas now if you're important enough you don't? Your assistant answers it for you...

I find it bizarre that as vehicles get safer they are becoming more distracting. I like bikes because they are involving, totally, no reason to take my eyes off the road. I could turn my van into a living room, legally, and be totally un-involved.
I like the ad because it shows young drivers, trying hard for there tests, very capable txter's, getting a feeling for how quick it goes wrong when you don't pay attention. A great lesson.
We live in strange times.

Oh, I quoted because I totally agree. I can't think of any conversations that is more important than being safe on the road.

[Shaun Harris]

So texting and talking are two completely different things, and everyone has different abilities in managing tasks at hand, however if you look at some of the studies holding your hand up to your ear and yakking away is AS BAD as hands free kits are because the actual distraction is the conversation with someone outside of the vehicle, not the driving one handed aspect which people assume is the problem because that's what they target.
Pretty sure this shit is all on here somewhere already. Usually the fact that CB and PRS equipment that requires physically input to operate yet are used legally by road users and law enforcement comes up as a contradiction to the fact it is for your safety that they are outlawed. Nabbing phone users is easy policing.

Eating is also the same level distraction as the conversation with someone out of the vehicle jazz.

This is why instead of tickets for Africa that mean and do diddly squat, people need to know their own level of ability. imo.

I tooted at a cop last week here for eating whilst he was driving, he looked at me very strangely at first, Until I put my cell phone up to my ear, he smiled and nodded. Point made.

[Maha]

We do a lot of driving and see too many drivers attending to their phone while driving, truck drivers included.
Sitting in Subway Taihape yesterday I saw a stock truck driver using his phone, must be difficult for them to stop and answer/send a text I guess?