First Aid kit and training?

[eldog]

suggestions about what should be included.
and what sort of training if any?
bike specific.

[Edbear]

Give Mike Mander a call at Heartsaver NZ. They do a range of First Aid kits and do workplace first aid training. Cheaper than St. John too.

[Gremlin]

The general advice - Get help on the way, prevent further damage/danger.

While carrying a big kit could be helpful, can you use it properly. Could you make things worse by attempting things you cannot do? Therefore the kit would likely vary from person to person.

It's probably a lot easier to just buy a general kit. You can get them in a massive variety of sizes, then replace anything you use. Plus it comes in a pouch.

[eldog]

Advice buy a general kit.

Thanks
OK this I will do.
maybe get some general training.

Just for general stuff - around the house and on the road.

[nzspokes]

Ive recently spoken to a St Johns instructor about this. No need for a motorcycle specific course, a broken body is a broken body. General class 2 St Johns course will cover it.

[eldog]

Ive recently spoken to a St Johns instructor about this. No need for a motorcycle specific course, a broken body is a broken body. General class 2 St Johns course will cover it.

OK
I will look into this.
Other injuries would be typical, grazes, broke bones, bleeding entrapment, etc.


I will have to ask about helmet if patient is not breathing.

Making sure they can breathe would be my main concern and to leave helmet on, what to do there, what position, how to check etc.

[Maha]

suggestions about what should be included.
and what sort of training if any?
bike specific.

When we were at the Motel, once (and sometimes twice) a month, St John did held a First Aid course, it last all day and was always well attended.

[nzspokes]

OK
I will look into this.
Other injuries would be typical, grazes, broke bones, bleeding entrapment, etc.


I will have to ask about helmet if patient is not breathing.

Making sure they can breathe would be my main concern and to leave helmet on, what to do there, what position, how to check etc.

Spoke at length about helmets. Only remove for a restricted airway. Apart from that the head is in a cumfy splint.

If its an airway issue they you have to get that helmet off and do something about it now. If not you have to have the "Im sorry for your loss" conversation with the riders mates.

[eldog]

Spoke at length about helmets. Only remove for a restricted airway. Apart from that the head is in a cumfy splint.

If its an airway issue they you have to get that helmet off and do something about it now.

How to sort out the airway issue would be what I am after.

[eldog]

When we were at the Motel, once (and sometimes twice) a month, St John did held a First Aid course, it last all day and was always well attended.

I think there is going to be a planned first aid course requirement for us at work

[awa355]

I taught 1st aid for years and could speak with a back ground in ambo work. I always told the class, the best 1st aid kit was a bag of clean rags, a bottle of water, a roll of tape, a few plasters. Today, you could include a small roll of glad wrap. You don't need a $50 kit to do the basics of controlling external bleeding.

You will deal with more minor cuts and grazes than the biggies. Any major injuries should have the immediate bleeding/breathing problems dealt with as you find them (if possible) then left for more experienced people to further assess and treat. Most life threatening injuries occur from within, the signs and symptoms of which are not always obvious.

[nzspokes]

I taught 1st aid for years and could speak with a back ground in ambo work. I always told the class, the best 1st aid kit was a bag of clean rags, a bottle of water, a roll of tape, a few plasters. Today, you could include a small roll of glad wrap. You don't need a $50 kit to do the basics of controlling external bleeding.

You will deal with more minor cuts and grazes than the biggies. Any major injuries should have the immediate bleeding/breathing problems dealt with as you find them (if possible) then left for more experienced people to further assess and treat. Most life threatening injuries occur from within, the signs and symptoms of which are not always obvious.

This I agree with. Keep them alive until the Pro's get there.

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[Maha]

OK

Making sure they can breathe would be my main concern and to leave helmet on, what to do there, what position, how to check etc.

We gave two helmets (slight drop damaged) to the local Volunteer Fire guys so they could use them in their training. That's where flip front helmets can come into their own, access to the mouth area made easy.

[Hitcher]

All you need for first aid is a cellphone. Most will tell you your location (if you don't know where you are) and allow you to ring 111.

[Maha]

All you need for first aid is a cellphone. Most will tell you your location (if you don't know where you are) and allow you to ring 111.

Cellphone with an epirb app.