Short & sweet summary of the hypocrisy of Syrian situation

**husaberg** · 20th April 2018, 14:44

Originally Posted by Viking01

Thanks for the update and the link to the OPCW Report Summary in post #428.
Clarifies the comments made regarding BZ. So it appears that comments made re BZ within samples were
incorrect. And confirms the presence of "Novichuk" in the UK Skripal samples supplied to and tested by OPCW in the
Netherlands.[ And yes, with an organic chemistry and a chemical engineering background plus some recent background
reading on "Novichuks" and A234 etc, I acknowledge your last comment about their "chemical definition". ]
Viking

If you read the summary report it was repeated at other labs (ie Swiss and others)its mentioned in section 6
So can you please, knowing what you now, give any plausable reason why Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov appears to have been attempting to subvert these facts then?
In your opinion do his claims regarding the lab tests ammount to what you earlier descibed as being a "Red Herring"

Also i missed that you said this earlier.

So if the Russians have had to "keep changing their story", well, the obvious answer is that it has been in response to the ever changing story-line providedby the UK authorities.

Can you give some examples where the UK have changed their story?

**Swoop** · 20th April 2018, 16:40

Wow.

The gullibility of kiwis in believing the socialist propaganda and disinformation, is remarkable.

"Gas attack didn't happen"? I imagine the Syrian civilians will be happy to know this.
"70+ Missiles shot down". Well, since the "defence system" didn't activate until after the attack, this is impressive.
I'm sure the Assads will happily show the bombsites where the destroyed incoming-missiles were located.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 20th April 2018, 16:44

Originally Posted by Swoop

I imagine the Syrian civilians will be happy to know this.
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I haven't seen any that have been gassed? And can you tell me again, how is bombing a chemical munitions plant a good idea? Not that that's what it was...

Rocket Science!

**Swoop** · 20th April 2018, 16:48

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

I haven't seen any that have been gassed? And can you tell me again, how is bombing a chemical munitions plant a good idea? Not that that's what it was...

Rocket Science!

Have you been reading Pravda again, or one of steve's "favourite" sites?

**husaberg** · 20th April 2018, 17:05

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

I haven't seen any that have been gassed?

The OPCW still even today, have been prevented from accessing the site by both Russia and Syria where the attack was alledged to have occured. Does that not strike you as a little odd that the OPCW still is being prevented even now from going to the site by Russia and Syria.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ess-douma-site
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...site-1.3463756
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...416-story.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43792120
https://www.rferl.org/a/syria-russia.../29172074.html

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

And can you tell me again, how is bombing a chemical munitions plant a good idea? Not that that's what it was...
Rocket Science!

Both Syria and Russia were given advanced warning that the US intended to attack of the Syrian facilities.
Even you knew this.
Also The US lead forces even used the UN defined corridor Russia knew this and had turned off their own Defensive missles.
Syria was thus given time to evacuate the facilities and remove its stockpiles of chemicals at these facilities.
It was the capasity to manufacture these nerve agents that was the target, thats why only a few people died.

**Viking01** · 20th April 2018, 17:05

Originally Posted by husaberg

If you read the summary report it was repeated at other labs (ie Swiss and others)its mentioned in section 6
So can you please, knowing what you now, give any plausable reason why Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov appears to have been attempting to subvert these facts then?
In your opinion do his claims regarding the lab tests ammount to what you earlier descibed as being a "Red Herring"

Also i missed that you said this earlier.
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Can you give some examples where the UK have changed their story?

Thanks for your last update in post #436

Appreciate your bringing the media correction re BZ to my attention. And I believe that I acknowledged
the earlier UAwire article was in error.

But it would be remiss of me to surmise what Mr Lavrov might or might have been thinking, or what his
motivations or intentions might have been, when he made his statement. If you want to know that, then
perhaps you could contact the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation:

http://www.mid.ru/en/main_en

and lodge a request for a clarification.

I see the earlier article containing Lavrov's comments (posted on the UAwire website) has since been
removed. I hope you're not going to ask me why the website hosts choose to did so, and whether that
also amounted to an attempted subversion of the truth.

Regarding your last point, I'm sorry that I can't make any definitive statement for you as to the colour
of the herring. While Russians are traditionally type cast as being "Red", from a quick search of Russian
herring recipes online, Russian herring would appear to be slightly pink:

http://russianfood-ie.com/russian-sa...rring-seledka/

Traditionally served with Schnapps back home, but likely Vodka in the case of the Russians. The best that
I can do for you at this moment.

Have a good week-end.

Cheers,
Viking

P.S. I see that you have since added a request for a list of the changes re the UK storyline. I'll see
what I can compile for you. Back to you later on that one.

**oldrider** · 20th April 2018, 17:44

Media Blackout on Eye-witness Denials of Alleged Douma Gas Attacks https://www.globalresearch.ca/media-...ttacks/5636725

**Voltaire** · 20th April 2018, 18:52

I do wonder why Assad who is on the face of it "winning" would court bombing from the 'goodies' with a gas attack.

**Katman** · 20th April 2018, 18:59

Originally Posted by Voltaire

I do wonder why Assad who is on the face of it "winning" would court bombing from the 'goodies' with a gas attack.

I'm sure husaberk will be along shortly with the definitive answer to that one.

**oldrider** · 20th April 2018, 19:18

US-Led Western Scheme to Divide & Destroy Syria Revealed in Leaked British Cable:- http://freedom-articles.toolsforfree...-leaked-cable/

.... Israel first?

**husaberg** · 20th April 2018, 19:24

Originally Posted by Voltaire

I do wonder why Assad who is on the face of it "winning" would court bombing from the 'goodies' with a gas attack.

Why not ask his neighbours
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fe...120132586.html

But in October 2017, the Joint Investigative Mechanism, a group tasked by the UN Security Council and the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) to investigate chemical weapons attacks, confirmed that the chemical attack on Khan Sheikhoun did happen, and that the Syrian government was responsible for the killing of civilians.

Maybe its very effective bacause only minutes after the attack occured the rebels agreed to pull back.
But still the now today the Syrian goverment denies the OPCW access to the site.

One might also ask why did Sadam husain do the same.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/h...al_warfare.stm

**Voltaire** · 20th April 2018, 19:59

I get gas attacks are unpalatable and illegal but any worse than cluster bombs or those delayed ones?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-tells-commons

How come Yemen barely makes the news?

How come they provide weapons to the Saudis to batter their neigbours with ?, oh hang on I think I know the answer to that one.

The world is one sure fucked up place.

You can get back to posting links now.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 20th April 2018, 20:13

Originally Posted by Voltaire

I get gas attacks are unpalatable and illegal but any worse than cluster bombs or those delayed ones?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-tells-commons

How come Yemen barely makes the news?

How come they provide weapons to the Saudis to batter their neigbours with ?, oh hang on I think I know the answer to that one.

:

Because it's OK for us to do it Silly! Sheesh!

**Crasherfromwayback** · 20th April 2018, 20:31

Originally Posted by Voltaire

How come Yemen barely makes the news?

How come they provide weapons to the Saudis to batter their neigbours with ?, oh hang on I think I know the answer to that one.

The Yanks are on their way here too. Or, NOT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHuwIT7vSLU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LZjNwuBG2I

They'll look after these cunts too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNq0DIqgR5A

**husaberg** · 20th April 2018, 20:45

Originally Posted by Voltaire

I get gas attacks are unpalatable and illegal but any worse than cluster bombs or those delayed ones?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-tells-commons

How come Yemen barely makes the news?

How come they provide weapons to the Saudis to batter their neigbours with ?, oh hang on I think I know the answer to that one.

The world is one sure fucked up place.

You can get back to posting links now.

I posted Russias use of cluster bombs as confirmed by their own videos neither Cuzhelikeareacharroundback or Katspam had an issue with it.
They seemed to think it was alright by them.

Originally Posted by husaberg

The author is a regular guest on Russia Today.
Today Last time I seen something on Russia Today it was when they made the mistake of showing a Russian jet being loaded with cluster bombs to bomb a civilian area of Syria.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-0...l-says/9213754
Russian media where it is a crime punishable by imprisonment to criticise Russia
His website also has links directing people to David Icke, Alex Jones

Originally Posted by husaberg

Err as i posted a few times the Russians are using both incendiaries and cluster bombs already.

Originally Posted by husaberg