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    35mm film photography?

    Does anyone here still use a film camera?. I have been thinking of picking up a 35mm film SLR as a sideline interest to my digital photography. Some quite cheap on turd me, but how hard would the films be to get?.

    Also is there any digital age technology available that allows developing film at home, apart from making a darkroom?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awa355 View Post
    Does anyone here still use a film camera?. I have been thinking of picking up a 35mm film SLR as a sideline interest to my digital photography. Some quite cheap on turd me, but how hard would the films be to get?.

    Also is there any digital age technology available that allows developing film at home, apart from making a darkroom?.
    The digital age has well and truly done away with darkrooms and there is no way of developing 35mm film other than the chemicals and total darkness method.

    There really is no logical reason for dabbling in 35mm any more.

    In the early days of digital, 35mm was superior - but those days are long gone.

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    For the absolute purist there is still some advantages in using film. No matter the dynamic range of your camera sensor or what version of photoshop and plugins there is something in the analogue action of film that produces better tonal graduations from dark to light in black and white images.
    But really you have to be pixel peeping and a pro to see the difference.
    I don't like colour film but Black and white has seduced many funds out of my bank account experimenting. The only problem is most shops that still process film only do colour, expect a week or more delay to have black and white films sent away. I recommend filmsoup in wellington.

    This stuff here produces fantastic results and is quite tolerant of your exposure being off slightly. http://photogear.co.nz/ilford-fp4-pl...exposures.html

    There is something to in accepting the image as you shot it and not fluffing around in photoshop or camera raw for hours tweaking images to perfection. An old camera is good ice breaker and conversation starter too.
    I'll upload some samples shortly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    There really is no logical reason for dabbling in 35mm any more.

    In the early days of digital, 35mm was superior - but those days are long gone.
    So have the days of VMX, Blackpowder muzzle loaders, etc but to some keeping the past alive is what they enjoy.

    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    For the absolute purist there is still some advantages in using film. No matter the dynamic range of your camera sensor or what version of photoshop and plugins there is something in the analogue action of film that produces better tonal graduations from dark to light in black and white images.
    But really you have to be pixel peeping and a pro to see the difference.
    I don't like colour film but Black and white has seduced many funds out of my bank account experimenting. The only problem is most shops that still process film only do colour, expect a week or more delay to have black and white films sent away. I recommend filmsoup in wellington.

    This stuff here produces fantastic results and is quite tolerant of your exposure being off slightly. http://photogear.co.nz/ilford-fp4-pl...exposures.html

    There is something to in accepting the image as you shot it and not fluffing around in photoshop or camera raw for hours tweaking images to perfection. An old camera is good ice breaker and conversation starter too.
    I'll upload some samples shortly.
    You are right about B &W scenes. It brings out the mood of many subjects, but is not for all people, or for all scenes. I have never had any interest in raw format or photoshop. I would sooner try for an acceptable image from the camera. At the moment, My pet interest is night time street scenes and light patterns.




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    Where do you event get that shirt developed now?

    My old man build a dark-room in his garage decades ago. Has not been used for decades either. Guess that gear will be worthless now.

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    Fucking expensive if you can get hold of it.
    http://www.photowarehouse.co.nz/shop...lide-colour-2/

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Where do you event get that shirt developed now?

    My old man build a dark-room in his garage decades ago. Has not been used for decades either. Guess that gear will be worthless now.
    pretty much. My bro-in-law has a pile of Nikon bodies and glassware, all very close to top of the line (for its day) gathering dust. His main camera now is a cell phone
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
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    Ilford XP2 is a B&W film that is processed in the same chemicals as colour film (C41) so can be processed by the same labs and at the same price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awa355 View Post
    Does anyone here still use a film camera?.
    nope, gave it away a year or more ago. didn't even "upgrade" to a digital. as mention. cellphone camera capture most of what i want.

    how hard would the films be to get?.
    more and more so.

    Also is there any digital age technology available that allows developing film at home, apart from making a darkroom?.
    no, but a darkroom can mask your meth lab as the chemicals smell the same and you need the same extractor fans and stuff

    you can develop b&w inside the tank inside a heavy black bag, can be done in the outdoors even.

    but printing photos is light-sensitive. (mmmmmmobviously, if you have any grasp of how it's done)

    you can of course, develop the negatives and have someone else print them. or develop them and then use a film scanner, or even a high res flatbed scanner to then print them digiomatically (which is a fuckload cheaper)

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    ...there is something in the analogue action of film that produces better tonal graduations from dark to light in black and white images...
    dye sublimation, nikka. most sensors (probably all) now days will get enough info, and if that get all the way to the correct printer, it can be pretty hard to pick...

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    I used to print my own colour photos.

    Colour requires precise temperature control throughout the chemical process to give consistent results.

    Hard work in trays in a bathroom/darkroom.

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    ...the stuff to do your own developing is still there, nothings changed...only us...

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    For the absolute purist there is still some advantages in using film. No matter the dynamic range of your camera sensor or what version of photoshop and plugins there is something in the analogue action of film that produces better tonal graduations from dark to light in black and white images.
    But really you have to be pixel peeping and a pro to see the difference.
    I don't like colour film but Black and white has seduced many funds out of my bank account experimenting. The only problem is most shops that still process film only do colour, expect a week or more delay to have black and white films sent away. I recommend filmsoup in wellington.

    This stuff here produces fantastic results and is quite tolerant of your exposure being off slightly. http://photogear.co.nz/ilford-fp4-pl...exposures.html

    There is something to in accepting the image as you shot it and not fluffing around in photoshop or camera raw for hours tweaking images to perfection. An old camera is good ice breaker and conversation starter too.
    I'll upload some samples shortly.
    Ironically I think the reason I don't use my dslr as much as I used to use my slr was how much it cost for film.
    The excitement was palpable as you watched your previous develop. Knowing there could only be 36 frames a week makes you take better pictures.
    I have probably taken more pictures with my digital. But then I don't display display them or sell then like I used to and I don't get the camera out of the cupboard very often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awa355 View Post
    Does anyone here still use a film camera?. I have been thinking of picking up a 35mm film SLR as a sideline interest to my digital photography. Some quite cheap on turd me, but how hard would the films be to get?.

    Also is there any digital age technology available that allows developing film at home, apart from making a darkroom?.
    I still shoot film but only Medium format (but I get the negs scanned at a pro lab and I make my adjustmenst before printing so it's a semi digital workflow)

    I see you live in Te awamutu, this limits your options on getting stuff developed in colour or developed and scanned at a lab.

    There's real no at home option other than the traditional darkroom. (or you buy a 35mm film scanner but you still need to get the negative developed first if using colour or you dev your own BnW at home then scan it, note film scanners are expensive and hard to find and finding a current software driver is a pain)

    OR you can shoot 35mm film and send it to a lab for a DEV and SCAN they will develop your neg and sleeve it and scan the photo's at the resolution you ask onto CD. BUT this costs about $20 per roll so it' not cheap.
    (I think 'Photo Warehouse' or PCL in AKL is the nearest option)


    regarding old film gear sitting on shelves collecting dust
    I recently bought a cheap sony Nex 6 body on TM you can put other lens's on them from different manufactures this allows me to utilize all of my old 35mm film lens's with the help of an adaptor rings (which cost about $20) which has given a new lease of life to that gear and the lens's are better quality then a lot of glass on new Digi cams (especially for the price).

    One thing I love about film (and it depends on what you want to shoot is it slows me down, I get 10 shots per roll of 120 neg (thats about 5 times bigger than 35mm) and that means I make a lot of decisions before I take a photo (because it's so frikken expensive) so my keeper rate on film is very high, on digital it's easy to just spray away and get 100's of images at the end of a day but the ratio of good to bad won't be as high.

    and Yes you can still by film just nowhere near as many options as ten years ago but Kodak and Fuji are still making it (just)

    hope some of this is of help
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