"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
I cant comment on your personal experience, as it's obviously way different to mine...
there are some IAM involved KB'rs who might chip in with luck, and are you really surprised a cruiser could not 'keep up' with sprotbikes on bends?? The guy might only own cruisers, we dont all subscribe to the head down, arse up style of riding. {my belly would get in the way for a start}
The mentioned 'rastuscat' in a discussion a while ago around a similar topic did say there are 'notable' differences between NZ and UK Police training, here they are trained more in 'close quarter traffic situations', as mentioned the UK focus more with the 'high speed' training.
And yes when I did my training the instructor was a Popo rider, as are many on various courses in the UK. The Popo here do not encourage the few riders they have to 'get involved'......
Even if you decide against the training courses get a copy of the Police 'roadcraft' motorcycle book.... One thing I mention on her repeatedly is a manoeuvre called the 'life saver', over 90% of the time it meets with a 'whats that'....... it's called it for a reason!!! {rear observation before turning right or overtaking}.... that book will explain and 'teach it' in detail..... it's been 70 yrs in the designing.
If the road to hell is paved with good intentions; and a man is judged by his deeds and his actions, why say it's the thought that counts? -GrayWolf
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
The thing is I'm not gifted with them either. The first thing I did was to get some formal training before I got my license. Since then it's taken a lot of road time, open mindedness and self criticism to develop my powers of observation.
There would certainly be fewer crashes if some riders would pull their head out of the sand and realise that observational skills can be developed. No matter your natural aptitude.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
Here you go again. You have to concentrate all the time when you ride, not just when you feel like it. That way you would see all of the clues to tell you something is about to happen that you will not see if you ride with your eyes open and your brain turned off. Like cars that u-turn. It can't be done if there is no driver, or wheels pointing straight ahead. But you have to look to see that.
People who cannot demonstrate this and continue to crash should have their licence taken off them.
Not sure if that was ever the case but in the last 5 years that I've been involved, both serving and retired police have been heavily involved with IAM. This years' annual conference was held at National Police College at Porirua. Their top instructors worked with attending members on all manner of skills, including on-road and training ground skills. Outstanding!
Have to agree with you regarding lifesavers/head checks. When we carry out initial assessments for prospective members, lack of head checks at critical points are the most common area for improvement. This is part of an overall lack of situational awareness.
Not taking notice of the brake lights of the car ahead ... or cars parked on the left of the road with their (right) indicator on ... cars approaching with their right indicator on ... cars waiting to pull out into your intended path ... has a great deal to do with observation ...
When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...
NZ Police don't do high speed training (I think it's something about not being able to legally practise at high speed?) while the UK are certified to levels of chase speed. The biggest factor for the officers, is that the higher the speed they are graded for, the greater the burden of responsibility on them, as they should be better, ie, even if a car pulls out in front of them, they should have anticipated. The police here do practise for situations where they are reversed into... (well, positioning, not the actual crunch )
Just bear in mind that it's a hell of a read for the uninitiated. Don't try to digest in one hit, read a chapter, practise a little, read a bit, etc.Originally Posted by GrayWolf
Those joining IAM NZ are given an A5 Riding Standards booklet, which is a condensed version of the book and modified for NZ laws.
Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
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